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The Funk Brothers:Ain't Too Proud To Beg...look at the sentence at the top... ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 04:06, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Ummm, could you, maybe, ummm, you know, be a *little* bit more specific? Because all I see is a template that does what it's supposed to. (In other words: Huh?) — 6x9 (Talk) 12:35, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Lol oh ok. It is grammatically incorrect (It should really have another comma before the "and features") but no worries. I was tired so I read it wrong. I thought it was missing "and" before the word "appears".  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 13:31, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I removed the "and" before the "appears" for songs with "|fa=" on purpose, so there wouldn't be an endless string of "and"s, especially with two albums. (…and appears on ____ and on ____ and features ____ and ____) I can add the comma, though, if you're 110% certain that it should be there (not just "it's kinda sort-of better for it to be there"). Beware, though, if there's any complaints afterwards…! — 6x9 (Talk) 13:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
No leave it. Some would say it should be there (like me). Some wouldn't. You've saved yourself a job ;)  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 14:02, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Can anything be done...

to resolve this. Yes I know songs with brackets are problematic because they are interpreted as an album, but they aren't going to go away. And you are the Wizard after all ;) ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 12:19, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, something can probably be done, but not by me. Like I said somewhere above to Senv, the templates rely on those "magic words", and those can, as far as I know, only be implemented by Sean (though IIRC Teknomunk created them). So you'll have to pester one of them about it. — 6x9 (Talk) 12:32, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I was going to mention them ol' "magic words". I think KingNee has already pestered them.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 13:26, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Community Portal talk page

This is a triviality and can wait for the bottom of anyone's "to do" list but I would appreciate it if the box containing the chat archives on the CP talk page was collapsible (default collapsed) please. I find it distracting and I don't see a need for it to be wide open all the time and no way for someone to close it if they chose. Thank you,

--   RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   18:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Done. Good idea! (And very easily and quickly fixed too.) — 6x9 (Talk) 18:25, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

K I got a bit of a problem...

This one is serious. Now do I carry on watching Neil Young in concert...Or do I turn TV over and watch Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy? See I told you it was serious. Obviously I've seen them both before. The Neil Young Concert more recently..but it's so difficult to turn ol' Neil off when he's sitting there stunning everyone into utter and complete silence "Old man look at my life, I'm a lot like you were."'ing.. Shall I just toss a coin? "Dance,dance, dance,..." Oh btw it's snowing here..they reckon it's going to be deep! Oh fun!  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 22:18, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Now there's a dilemma! Depends on whether it's the old BBC series or the Hollywood movie of a few years ago. (While the latter certainly had its moments, it mostly left me cold. Somehow, during the translation into Hollywoodish, much of what made Adams so special got lost… Too family-friendly, perhaps? Too little of that dark, cynical humour?)
Unfortunately, AFAIK the BBC series was aired only once on German TV, shortly after it was produced, and while I saw it at the time, I was way too young to remember much. (There goes your old geezer theory…) Can't imagine why – there's certainly enough folks over here who'd love to see it again. (Or maybe it got a rerun and I missed it? Horrible thought! Maybe I should watch more TV, just in case… *looks through programme and shudders* …or maybe not.) — 6x9 (Talk) 23:29, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Although I totally agree that the Hollywood film wasn't half as good as the series, Hitchhikers won.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 16:42, 3 February 2009 (UTC) *mmm..."way too young"...goes off researching...1981..when I was in my teens*
Hey! It sounds like you two are in my age group. I was 20 in 1981. I'll let you do the math ;-) --   RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   19:31, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Odd… I hadn't pegged you as such an old geezer ;-) Though I should have guessed it – I doubt anyone outside that particular age group listens to Foreigner anymore, let alone actually likes them… always wondered how Ian McDonald could sink so low… (tee hee!)
If you're still here (and not stomped off in a huff… or trying to find out where I live and hunt me down), could you have another look at my test page? Since no-one seemed too happy with the two sections thing, I decided to go with your idea instead ("proper" links in bold). Order is about as alphabetical as I could make it. Except that iTunes is above Amazon, to keep all search links together. — 6x9 (Talk) 20:05, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I think it looks fine they way you have it now. Good job!    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   20:16, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

A couple of requests

When you get time would you look at my move request? In conjunction with that, I'd like you to tell me how to do a split catalog. You see, I've started a compilation series called, Super Hits of the '70s and it contains 25 discs. I've started a first page with 5 of the discs and to avoid having an incredibly huge page I thought I'd break it up into 5 pages of 5 discs each but I don't know how. Would you teach me what I need to do? I'd really appreciate it.
--   RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   04:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

RE: Move request, since it's only one page that's actually moved, batch move is useless. What you probably want automated is updating all the links to that page, which batch move doesn't. So you'll have to ask Red or another user with a bot, sorry.
RE: Splitting, I haven't done much of that myself (except on the Jethro Tull page). It might not be necessary, though: it's really only to avoid hitting the 32kb limit you know, the warning message on Red's talk page ;-) and so far the page is only 6kb, so there's a good chance you'll stay below the limit.
Hmmm, if rateyourmusic is correct, they weren't ALL released in 1990, only the first 15 (with 16-21 following in 1993 and 22-25 in 1996). They also use hyphens instead of colons, and the covers have no colons either… what does it say on the spine? Anyway, if the release dates on R.Y.M. are correct, I'd suggest splitting them accordingly (1-15 on the current page and the rest on two new pages). Not very symmetrical, though…
The cleanest thing though, since they seem to be individually available rather than as a complete set, would be to put each on its own page, like Hs did with the Bravo Hits series. It's what I'd prefer (and I'll even whip you up a template for each page like he did, unless you want to try your hands at that yourself… it's a relatively simple one). — 6x9 (Talk) 12:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
If you want it done like Hs then that's the way I'll do it Smile001 If you could get me started, I'll be able to follow your pattern with the following discs. As for the colon, I just thought it looked grammatically correct. We can stay with the hyphen. No problem.
Since I started it as a single page to begin with, I merely decided to go with the earliest date. --   RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   15:10, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Too late… Red's already gone and moved it. Pagenames should normally stick as closely as possible to the official name; since the front covers are no help in this regard (the only separator is font size), you can basically use whatever you want – brackets, a colon or a hyphen (though a hyphen should normally have a space left and right of it).
As to whether it should be one page for all or one per album, that's up to you, really; though with the different release years, and different ASIN codes etc. the latter is probably preferable. The format would practically be the same as it is now: {{VariousArtistAlbum}} at the top, tracklist, and {{AlbumFooter}} at the bottom. Pagenames would have "Vol. X" added before the year, maybe separated simply by a space (no colon or hyphen). — 6x9 (Talk) 15:26, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
@6x9: Rfl@sloth....I suppose you think you're funny, eh? A bit of reverse psychology maybe? Well the number of times I visit your page, I guess it might work...but I seriously doubt it. Or maybe you are simply hoping to deter me from abusing your user page with any more of my nonsense? Nice try ;)
@RD: Ok well at Wikipedia it's listed with a colon. At MusicBrainz it's a colon. And at AllMusic? Yes also a colon. The only place this album isn't named with a colon is RYM. Although I have been a registered member of RYM for years, I don't really use the site because I have never found the information they hold to be very accurate. I only use RYM when I'm researching bootlegs. As such I would recommend you use Wikipedia & MusicBrainz, Discogs and AllMusic. Usually between all four you can work out what's right. Where there are variations try looking for the album cover at www.cover-paradies, a great cover site I introduced to Will months ago (and he has since recommended to others) and check that.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 21:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Damn, I knew I should have used something stronger instead! (Or maybe this one…) Looks like I'll need weekly archives after all, then…
As far as I'm concerned, the definite source for an album name is the album cover. Since that's no help in this case, the spine or CD label would be next. I couldn't find those anywhere, though; not Coverparadies, not Discogs, and Google image search and Amazon show only the front covers. Note, however, that the wikipedia page says "Volume #", whereas on the covers it's clearly "Vol. #", so we should definitely go with the latter. — 6x9 (Talk) 22:37, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
I've been doing it as Vol. # since that's what's on the covers. Would you help me out with a template like Hs has? I've gotten 5 of the 25 discs completed as separate album pages. Do you need me to have all done before you start or could we adjust the template as I add more albums/discs to the collection? They are all going to be titled as, Super Hits Of The '70s: Have A Nice Day, Vol. # (year) with the year of release and volume number changing --    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   22:50, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes cover is definitive. It's just unhelpful that on the front the words aren't segregated but yes Vol. is correct as at least we can see that. Here's HS' template Template:Bravo Hits and Humbug has recently done something very nice for his J awards lists that you may also want to take a look too, see here Template:Hottest 100 List.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 23:18, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
{{Have A Nice Day}} – how's this? Feel free to change anything you want; it's really simple (most of it is a long list of album links which makes it look worse than it is). — 6x9 (Talk) 23:20, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
That looks great as is. Thank you very much for your help! --   RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   23:29, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

P.S. - I really, really, really like that new banner, 6x9 :-D If there's anything I can do to help you with any of your projects, please let me know. Danke shoen

Color me confused

Okay, Kiefer has put Super Hits into category:compilation series and you have it as compilation. Will it be in both categories or should one supercede the other? --   RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   23:55, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

6 my dear will you check I did it right please Category:Compilation Series  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 00:00, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
(edit conflict) That's OK, I'm confused as well %-\ Meanwhile, Red has changed the templates (the Bravo one as well) to Cat:Compilation Series… I'll leave it up to them to explain themselves. You hear that, Red? Explain yourself! (And maybe Kiefer's self as well, while you're at it.)
If comp. series have their own category, do we still need a subcategory for each series (i.e. Category:Bravo Hits etc.)? If yes, shouldn't it be enough to put the album pages themselves *only* in the subcategories? — 6x9 (Talk) 00:06, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
6 times 9, check my talk page and look at the history of the page that Kiefer did.    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   00:16, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I think Red & Kiefer might be a bit at cross-purposes here…? I think some of the categorising is now redundant. If a page is in Cat:Comp. Series, it needn't be in Cat:Compilation anymore. Similarly, if a page is in Cat:Super Hits…, which is a subcategory of Cat:Comp. Series, it shouldn't be in Cat:Comp. Series as well. Red? We're waiting for your explanation! — 6x9 (Talk) 00:26, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Is exactly why I wanted you to check it ;). Basically Kiefer has set up new category for these types of compilations Category:Compilation Series I simply changed the category links within templates accordingly. But I happened to notice that Bravo had another category link appropriately Category:Bravo Hits. So I did same for Super Hits. The only difference is (upon which I'm trying to seek clarification from Kiefer on) is that Kiefer made a Super Hits page an artist type page. Whereas Bravo Hits compilation series hasn't got one.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 00:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Alright, I've restricted both Bravo and Super Hits to their respective subcategories. The results should be visible in a few weeks, when the job queue is back to 0 and the categories are slowly starting to catch up :-) — 6x9 (Talk) 01:25, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. :-) *Shudders at the real photos of the sllllloooooothhhs* Come on you got to agree, something went very badly wrong with them didn't it?  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 01:36, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I do admire their lifestyle, though. *points at fourth box from the top on userpage* Well, except for the vegetarian bit. *looks hungrily at pictures and wonders how sloth meat would taste* — 6x9 (Talk) 01:48, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I swear it just moved across that branch!!  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 02:09, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Don't stare at it for too long, or you'll get nightmares tonight! (If you do, I want to hear all about them!) — 6x9 (Talk) 02:24, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Oh rest assured you will !! *goes off muttering... 'orrible creatures...*  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 02:59, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
(Outdent - The colons, oh, the colons!!!) I like the new Super Hits template. I edited it to link back to the Super Hits Of The '70s "Home" page, as each album otherwise doesn't, due to their being compilations. As I mentioned on my talk page to Redxx, I was kind of thinking that Category:Compilation Series would apply to these compilation "Home" pages, as opposed to the individual albums, which are good being in the Compilation category & the Category matching their series title (which was what was done to the Bravo Hits albums, I believe). I was attempting to make these compilation home pages easier to find.
As a side note, I was looking briefly at Category:Compilation and noticed that there are a bunch of soundtracks in there. Should those be listed there? I would think not, as they should be under Category:Genre/Soundtrack, yes?
Anyway, I'm going to create the Bravo Hits home page, if no one else has yet. (On preview, I see a red link! Off to work....)    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   04:22, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
I really like the Super Hits template too. I think 6x9 did a fine job! Smile001
I see you did the Bravo Hits "Home" page, Kiefer, and it looks good. Did you also include a link back to the home page on the Bravo Hits template? If so, I couldn't see it. --   RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   15:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
(*passes praise on to Hs* Most of the work was done by him – other than uploading the logo and adjusting the colours (and the links of course), I copied it straight from his template.)
You might need to clear your cache, then. Give the guy some credit! ; ) — 6x9 (Talk) 16:05, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Foxy King!

so... how much did da King have to pay to get his name on every song page? ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 02:49, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

You talkin about the images he uploads?  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 02:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Now I'm confused (again)… I thought Echo meant the FoxyTunes link in the SongFooter – which wasn't me, KingNee added that one before I even knew what a template was. — 6x9 (Talk) 03:00, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
In tl|SF Search...20px ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 03:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes was wot I thought you I do hope you get to see the icon though? I only see it if we got lag etc.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 03:25, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
(Edit conflict again… my talk page sure is popular tonight!) Now THAT is odd! In my browser it displays all icons like it should, and like it always did. I also didn't change that part of the code during the last update, so I haven't the faintest why it would start acting up now. Wonder who else is seeing this… — 6x9 (Talk) 03:28, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Fixed lol, All muisc pic as well, I should just set FF not to cache lw pages. thanks ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 03:34, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
So who's bought the beers then?  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 03:37, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Sandy Denny

Sandy Denny wrote "Who Knows Where the Time Goes" and was the first to record it. Fairport Convention COVERED her song with her as singer. Please do your research before moving pages like this. You may also check Wikipedia for this information. The previous unsigned comment was added by ILuvTea (talk).

I *did* look at the WP article. It says she recorded it privately (most likely meaning a demo that wasn't released at the time) and again with the Strawbs (which version wasn't released until much later). That would make the F.C. version the first one to be commercially released. (The infobox on WP is hideously inconsistent, though.) — 6x9 (Talk) 12:42, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Nice.. Demo so FC is correct. ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 00:40, 7 February 2009 (UTC) P.S. 6x9 is not an admin for nothing ;)

Album Art Box

I've seen you experimenting in your sandbox with various colours for the album art box. In my humble opinion, I think we should go with the shade of blue like the main page has. Also, there's been enough confusion over star ranking that I believe that whatever colour we settle upon, that should be the one and only. Not changing for EP's, compilations, etc. KUTGW! (keep up the good work) --    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   16:36, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I've already removed the colour-depending-on-type bit; makes the template a lot simpler! (Plus, it'll be near-impossible to get everyone to agree on ONE colour, let alone several…) I thought it might be a good idea to let each page type have its own "colour scheme" – we have blue tones on artist pages (ArtistHeader & AInfo), yellow on song pages (yellow lyric box, beige-ish Banner & SInfo, plus the brown badges brown is sort-of related to yellow, anyway). I won't insist on green (or that particular version of it), but I do think it should be something other than blue. (Though the AOTW template is blue… but that can be changed.) — 6x9 (Talk) 16:48, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I'd forgotten about the yellow lyric boxes. Yes, I think brown or green would look better on a yellow page. -- RD 17:08, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Hmmm…? I thought we were talking about album pages? There are no lyric boxes on these. (At least, there shouldn't be.) — 6x9 (Talk) 17:17, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about that. I needed a fresh caffeine injection. My brain stalled for a bit.  :-)    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   20:06, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the servers might need a fresh caffeine injection as well… At the current speed, you could not only brew a pot of coffee while waiting for a page to load, you could grow your own coffee beans first. — 6x9 (Talk) 20:17, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
Green would be nice.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 23:15, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
This tone OK? (The one I currently use.) Or a purer colour?6x9 (Talk) 23:43, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
They both have their plus points. Not fussed, just in keeping with the rest, i.e. shade/hue/tone.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 04:06, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

I found this note attached to a template page about colour blindness which I thought you might be interested in. [1].  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 23:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm. The only thing where colour distinction is really important is links (blue for internal, pale blue for external), and for those a special skin (using a different font type) would be best. Unless some colour-blind people see the green of the infobox title bar as black… though it's a relatively pale green, so it should be more like grey? I don't know how that works. I could make the green darker and change the font color to white, but personally I think the result wouldn't look too great… — 6x9 (Talk) 00:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. I don't think it would either. I wasn't expecting you to change anything anyway, I just thought you'd be interested.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 04:07, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm itching to start seeing the album art box in action, 6x9. When are you gonna stop fiddling with it and implement it? I think it's WAY better than what we have now.    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   18:12, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Every time I think I'm done something new comes along. And when it doesn't, Red comes up with something she wants me to add or change or tweak or remove… Once I get Will's input on the AOTW thingie (he's the expert on that topic), I'll wrap it up, I promise! — 6x9 (Talk) 18:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I just noticed in sandbox/test that released in and the year need a space in between them. It looks like "released in1970"    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   18:53, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
So that &nbsp; was there for a reason… Must be browser-specific, because on my screen there *was* a space. (Whereas now there are two… Definitely the lesser evil though.) Thanks for the notice! — 6x9 (Talk) 18:57, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


I only just noticed what you named those pics...haa haa. But it won't work cos I told you I am extremely brave (it goes hand in hand with being a rebel). And you know another thing? I'm almost getting to quite like sloths now ;) Maybe there's something in this "reverse psychology" lark yet.. *6x9 wonders whether Redxx is quite as honest as he has always thought she was*  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 15:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Indeed I do (wonder, that is). I also start to think you're getting rather negligent funny, I never noticed until now that "negligent" and "negligee" apparently have the same root… in your stalker duties, if it took you until now to notice the image names. Ah well, I didn't *really* think it would work, anyway (though I admit I hoped it would at least save me from having to archive weekly, rather than monthly).
Could you have another look at my test page and see what you think of my various approaches for improved placement of the AOTW badge? I left a longer post on this topic on Will's talk page, maybe you could reply there to keep the discussion in one place… — 6x9 (Talk) 15:50, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
RD decides to add to 6x9's talk page length :-) Hey Red, what about the platypus? That creature has got to be a mistake of nature if there ever was one. A duck-like bill and a flat tail like a beaver. It lays eggs but then suckles its young. --    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   15:57, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Wkipedia says: "The bizarre appearance of this egg-laying, venomous, duck-billed, beaver-tailed, otter-footed mammal baffled European naturalists when they first encountered it, with some considering it an elaborate fraud. It is one of the few venomous mammals; the male Platypus has a spur on the hind foot that delivers a venom capable of causing severe pain to humans."
Yes I know a few men like that...I wonder if they are related?  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 16:27, 10 February 2009 (UTC) P.S. I'm behind on my patrols 6 - I've been giving the Grammy's page priority.

More Stuff to lengthen your talk page

I was just thinking, instead of waiting for spammers to hit a template page or a category page, why not mass protect the lot of them right now? That would prevent future spam on all but user pages and song pages.    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   23:25, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

While we admins have many secret superpowers, batch protecting, unfortunately, isn't one of them. (Dunno if a bot could do it…) By now, (almost) all widely-used templates are protected (and they usually aren't spam targets anyway). With categories it's a different matter, but we'll get there eventually. — 6x9 (Talk) 00:41, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
We have to be careful here too as it's kinda against the spirit of a wiki. You would be amazed at how few templates are protected @ Wikipedia.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 00:50, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I'll whisper so that the spammers don't hear.... Another reason not to protect those pages is because those pages are heavily watched. The spammers like attacking them, but they get reverted quickly and then the spammers are blocked into oblivion so that no further damage is done. BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!!!! oops. I got a bit overwhelmed there with glee. My apologies.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   05:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Very valid point Kiefer.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 05:23, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


Something's gone a bit awry on this template. The ending of the sentence is not italicised. Looks weird. (Any way we could format correctly, i.e. " song name" ) ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 00:20, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

You sure you don't mean {{Cover2}}? Like here? Because {{Cover}} italicises everything except for the closing period. Do we need to italicise at all? Because {{Covered}} doesn't. Maybe it's time to give the three of them some uniformity. I suggest:
  • leaving Covered as it is
  • changing Cover to
This song is a cover of "Song Title" by Artist.
  • changing Cover2 to
This song has been covered by Artist under the title "Song Title".
That alright with you? — 6x9 (Talk) 00:36, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes sorry I meant {{Cover2}}. And yes I think that'd be fine, but I wouldn't bold the cover artist as it distracts attention way from the song. Now is this an ask? Or is it a do?  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 00:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC) P.S. You don't miss much either do you? (lol) Pic is indeed worthy of a "rflmao". I was just not having too good a day.
Don't forget to mention this in the public Comm. Portal. Thanks!    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   05:01, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for guidance Kiefer. It's an ask then. I do get a tad confused myself.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 05:21, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
You could copy this over to CP off your talk page if you want 6..make more room for more of my drivel... or you could wait until other issues are fully resolved.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 01:17, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Let's give it another day or two, in case some more opinions come up on those other matters, and to let people recover :-) Considering how hard it sometimes is to get ANY opinion at all on some matters, I suspect they must all be in a comatose state of exhaustion by now… — 6x9 (Talk) 01:48, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
So what's your secret then? ;)  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 02:00, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Unbelievable stamina of course. (Nudge nudge, say no more.) And lots of coffee. Intravenously. — 6x9 (Talk) 02:19, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

new album template

Great job on the album update about this:[2]? ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 16:29, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

You mean the obsolete wikipedia parameter in AlbumFooter in MediaWiki:Lwtemp-album-template, right? I've fixed that now; thanks for the notice. — 6x9 (Talk) 16:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes that was it..great. The other similar problem is that Janitor is still creating Artist pages in the old style. cheers ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 16:43, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Looks like Janitor doesn't use the auto-template then. You'll have to mention that to its owner. — 6x9 (Talk) 16:54, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Would it be better now, or to wait to add an akuma link in the album footer? We have it in song footer and the artist template that provides external links. Akuma does have separate pages for albums, so I can't see why we wouldn't add it. I personally have been adding the parameters to album pages that I create or edit for months now, even though they don't work. --WillMak050389 17:08, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I added your suggestion to the template's talk page. There might be more ideas coming in (like recently with SongFooter), so it's probably better to wait and then add them all at once. — 6x9 (Talk) 17:22, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

K, so what (if anything) am I doing wrong? The example...why is it displaying as various artists instead of The Beatles?  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 20:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Because the page isn't a regular album page, i.e. Artist:Album (Year), so the template assumes it is an "artist-less" album. Best leave the template off completely, maybe instead provide a link to an exemplary album page… — 6x9 (Talk) 20:18, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, 'tis as as I thought then. As you have seen since, I completely ignored what you said to do ;) And the complicated bit? Well I just copied over something I knew worked and walked off (rfl). Next time I'll try and remember to experiment a bit first ;)  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 07:47, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I may be missing something extremely obvious, but why does the album template on Icedlife:Quiver (single) think it's a various artist single? --WillMak050389 19:55, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Same as what I wrote to Red above – the pagename doesn't stick to the default album-by-artist format, so the template assumes it's an artist-less album. Move it to the correct pagename, and the artist link will magically appear. It's a feature, not a bug! :-) — 6x9 (Talk) 20:04, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Wow, if I actually spent time to pay attention I would've caught that. The problem is no one seems to know when this came out and I hate pages with "(????)" in the title, if that would even work. Would ???? be interpreted as a year? --WillMak050389 20:10, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't particularly like ???? either, but it's necessary to mark a page as album-type (not just for the template). Yes, it works just like "(YEAR)" – as does any string of four characters inside brackets, unfortunately (including "(Live)" and "(Demo)"; we get lots of song pages with album templates this way). So I suppose you *could* use "(Sngl)" instead… if only to make ???? look good by comparison :-) — 6x9 (Talk) 20:17, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
I'll just use ????, Sngl made me think "snuggle" I think ???? is probably the best solution to this problem. Thanks for the info. --WillMak050389 20:34, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Awwww...he looks so happy!  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 13:25, 17 February 2009 (UTC)


Great work btw, but should this not be in Category:Templates? I didn't do it just in case it wasn't an oversight.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 07:47, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

You're right, it should. I meant to add the categories to the doc page, but obviously forgot. Done now. Thanks for the notice. — 6x9 (Talk) 13:24, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

About time..

Gold Record The Gold Record
6x9, I hereby present you with this Gold Record . Thanks for all the work you put into finalising team a's album template, also for muchly improving the song and album footers. You can have next Sontag off. That's not this Sunday but next Sunday, i.e. the 22nd of February. Stick it in your diary.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 07:47, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
P.S. You would've got a multi-platinum if you had sorted my Wikipedia section thingy out ;)
Like I said (when you demanded the same for ArtistHeader), that would require an extra parameter, and I'm not going to make a widely-used template (that's already spaghetti-ish enough) even more complicated just for the sake of half-a-dozen or so pages. Especially since, even if I did, you'd just find something else to moan about. ("Why won't the template automatically grab the songlist from WP, run it through the wikifyer and fill out the AlbumFooter all by itself? Why won't it hold my hand and sing to me when I'm ill? Why won't it save the world from global warming, solve all conflicts and figure out the Question?") — 6x9 (Talk) 13:24, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Mmmmm....demanded? Requested...pleaded.. begged maybe, but not "demanded". I don't make demands. Well only with my poxy daughter...who needs her hand holding and wants me to sing to her because she is at home ill with chicken pox. There is a need for the Wikipedia link to allow for sections of pages is all I'm saying. Not only for song pages (which I think you did acknowledge and I have created a seperate template for), but artist headers/collaboration Robert Plant & Alison Krauss, and in album footers too. And well, we can't have you slacking now can we?
But enough said, I won't ever mention "Wikipedia section thingy" to you again as long as I live. I'll just haunt you with it when I die ;)  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 14:36, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
You know, there's this grey rectangular box near the top of most Wikipedia articles, and inside it there are several lines of text, sometimes few, sometimes many, and if you click on one of them, your browser suddenly jumps to some different place on the same page, which, funnily enough, starts with the very same words you just clicked on, only in bigger and bolder letters (and sometimes even underlined). Of course, it seems *some* people are so unbelievably lazy even that is too much work for them.
The whole point of the collaboration template is to list the individual artists' information, so the wikipedia link for an individual artist should lead to the individual artist's wikipedia article, not to the section about the collaboration with the other individual artist(s), because in that case one wikipedia link for the whole infobox would suffice.
The reason why I *did* include the section link thingie in WP-Song is that it only had two parameters, so a third one wouldn't complicate things too much. {{Album}} (NOT -Footer) has many parameters, and a newbie or casual user looking at the template's documentation is already bound to have some hairs turning grey or falling out, so we shouldn't pile on even more (parameters, not hairs, that is).
Also, there are currently about 35,000 album pages. Do you honestly think even 1% of these will need a wp section link? Do you seriously propose we should make a huge and complex template that's used on 35,000 pages (and will, in the future, be used on many, many more) even huger and complexer just for the sake of a few dozen pages who could just as well use the wp template somewhere on the page? — 6x9 (Talk) 15:06, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
My lips are sealed.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 15:14, 12 February 2009 (UTC)


what you think of this [3] and umm... the wiki link.... ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 00:06, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

AlbumFooter is correct that way. (Various Artists, various artists, vArIoUs aRtIsTs all work – it's case-insensitive.) And the wikipedia link should go inside the Album template as usual. Or am I missing something here? (I just got back from the pub an hour ago, and the beer there is very good, so I'm even slower than usual.) — 6x9 (Talk) 00:15, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I'll move the wiki links in albums when I take care of that entire wiki links category... What surprised me was the absence of AlbumFooter.. are there any other albums besides VAAs that need an Album Footer? tia ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 00:25, 14 February 2009 (UTC) p.s. hope I'm not spoiling the musical inebriations ;)
I suppose it's to do with that auto-template thingie – pages without a colon aren't recognized as album pages, so the proper templates don't get inserted. However, I've also seen a few pages with the Single template that missed an AlbumFooter – maybe people thought that's only for albums and deleted it… There's only about 35,000 album pages (or at least pages with an album template), so it shouldn't take a bot too long to go through all of them and add basic albumfooters where necessary.
Albums are now sorted by "Album Title (Year)" (unnecessary to add artist like in songs; I doubt there are more than 200 albums of the same title released in the same year), so albums with wrong fLetter are now easy to spot in categories "Album fLetter". As suspected, most of them start with "The". — 6x9 (Talk) 00:37, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
ok scanning the albums by bot, I came across this gem, can you peek and tell me why lw takes it as a compilation? any other mass album edits you were saving for summer, don't, tell me now ;) ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 01:24, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
You're the third person to ask me about the v.a. bit (after Red and Will); scroll up a bit for my previous replies. I'm starting to think that maybe this wasn't such a good idea…
Other mass edits – none that I can think of. (Murphy's Law dictates I'll think of one as soon as you're done. I'll let you know then :-)) — 6x9 (Talk) 02:03, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm confused Echo, can you explain your edits on this >>> Triple J Hottest 100 Volume 3 (1996) only looks like you added footer etc then decided to remove them.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 01:36, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Confused I am...What's missing? [4] besides the obsolete "{{VAA" ? ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 01:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
maybe this one [5] ? ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 02:04, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't get the Kris Kristofferson connection sorry, but my apologies. I was checking my watchlist, the edit I was looking at it didn't have a footer, I saw the "rm" in the edit summary you provided above..and well... But having had a few cups of strong coffee in the time since I can see that Humbug didn't actually put one on the page when he created it. As I say, my apologies.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 03:15, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Red, don't you think that adding "section link thingy to bottom of page as can't add to album" to a page, having already the link to the same wp page in {{Album}}, is a little redundant?--Senvaikis (talk) 12:25, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Didn't you know? "Red" is short for "Redundancy", with "xx" meaning loads and loads of it (as in XXL). :-) — 6x9 (Talk) 14:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
What's good for artist and song pages is good for albums, it's consistent ;)) ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 15:17, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Hee hee..and I thought you was my friend Sen! ;p
Ok, well you see at the very bottom of that page on Wikipedia, in a section, is info about the actual album for which we have a page. But I can't put a shut your eyes 6x9 wikipedia section link thingy in the Wikipedia parameter for the album, because it don't compute.
So this presents me with a huge dilemma and, truth to tell, much anxiety, because I live in constant turmoil, fearing that those who may click on the Wikipedia article link in excitement and anticipation, expecting gleefully to be presented with info on the album, may not actually know to scroll to the bottom of the page...thereby going through the rest of their lives, from that day forward, never knowing what they missed...
Which you could say explains why I added it at the bottom of the page.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 16:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Just imagine someone scrolling to the bottom of the album page, exclaiming in joy, "Oh look, there's another Wikipedia link! Wonder to which fount of knowledge this will lead me?" and sinking to the lowest depths of disappointment when they click on it and land on the same tired old page. Then they'll demand the precious seconds of their life they lost this way back from you, and at your age you know you can't afford that anymore :-) — 6x9 (Talk) 17:24, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
official communique posted to the bot portal: Additionally, all pages in Category:Wikipedia Link in AlbumFooter will have to have the wikipedia parameter moved from AlbumFooter to Album. At least it's good to have Senv on board. ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 17:02, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Lol, if we had a MOTY ("Maxim Of The Year") nomination, 6's "Red is short for 'Redundancy', with 'xx' meaning loads and loads of it" definitely should be awarded without any doubts :) You all are wonderful, - thanks for fun I'm constantly having here :).
Special thanks to Red for her comprehensive explanations, or I'd never noticed sectioning stuff ;) - I just thought it was done just to show what a wonderful template (made by one of tl guru) we have... Now I know I was wrong. But even then I was your friend, Red; now I just Heart you :), cheers--Senvaikis (talk) 18:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Hee hee@Senv I Heart you too and yes, it isn't in the Footer - it's on the sole Lol
And 6? Have you found the easter egg I hid on your talk page yet? Admittedly, you might need to search a little harder at your age, or adjust the light a bit to see it.
Here, have a Cow1  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 20:13, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Rather an odd colour for eyebrows, I have to say… — 6x9 (Talk) 20:27, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I do hope you haven't forgotten... get the love of your life a Valentine's day card. In the UK, "forgetting" to produce a valentine card is considered a perfectly acceptable reason to dissolve a relationship. Another is not warming feet before getting into bed.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 05:07, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd consider requiring any sort of acknowledgment that V.D. even exists a perfectly acceptable reason to dissolve a relationship. It's really just a great conspiracy by florists in order to destroy Western civilization. — 6x9 (Talk) 05:22, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
V.D., eh? Wow. I'm old-school enough to find that really funny. And, yes, it's usually a deal-breaker. *snicker-snicker*    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   06:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Haa haa yes indeed Kiefer.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 07:33, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
It's so obvious I can hardly believe you haven't heard it before… I always imagine scores of Valentine's Day haters all over the country, gleefully rubbing it in… — 6x9 (Talk) 14:22, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I didn't have any bad influences when I was growing up discounting the Girl Guides of course, so I am innocent in all such matters. No, there isn't a wink there.
SnowmanOops..sorry wrong emoticon.Heart ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 16:22, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

It's that bit....

No no that bit, that bit...the grey box underneath my userboxes on the left hand side of page. I don't want it included inside the userbox border (which is the closest I got), I just want it up a bit. Is that asking too much? Please? Pretty please?  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 21:47, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Problem is, I don't know where you want it. Rule-of-thumb: if you use multiple line break tags, you're doing something wrong. (Resize the browser window, or change the font-size, to see what I mean.) Try clear or margin instead. — 6x9 (Talk) 22:14, 15 February 2009 (UTC)


I thought these were supposed to get caught? Bowery Blues ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 13:12, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Well, the Song template can only do its magic if it's actually present on a page. In this case it isn't, obviously. — 6x9 (Talk) 13:26, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I don't know the logic of "invalid template categories", but here is a fresh SF example. I suppose absence of a template cannot be detected then. cheers ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 22:44, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
No, unfortunately it can't. ALL TOGETHER NOW: Not until we get Semantic, at least. — 6x9 (Talk) 22:48, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
See man tic? Why, yes...I am a little twitchy. Thanks for noticing.  :-]    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin  
Need to relieve some stress? Why not smite an unwanted template? — 6x9 (Talk) 03:23, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes. Yes! YES!!!!!! (I go now. With glee.)    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   04:09, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Aw. That wasn't as exciting as I thought. They had all been removed from their pages already. (I guess S2E2 got those, as well.) But I did get to nuke the template itself, which was satisfying. But I was hoping for a little more mayhem. Ah, well. Next time!    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   04:13, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

About [[DJ Ötzi:Ein Stern (der deinen Namen trägt]]


I agree with your argument that there is nothing wrong with redirects but this one does not make any sense, nobody would look for a wrong titled song like this and that´s why there is this redirect to the correct named article: DJ Ötzi:Ein Stern (Der Deinen Namen Trägt) with a ) at the end.

PS: Another possibility would be to add the ) on this redirect because normally you do not write the hole text in majuscules.

Best regards, Manecke 14:09, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Redirects are not only for common names of songs that differ from the LW name. Any page that was created with an incorrect title will usually be turned into a redirect as it is very easy for any user to do and doesn't need any admin work. There is not much advantage of deleting a page over turning it into a redirect, and if an external source links to the incorrectly named page (because it used to have content on it), they will still get the contents of the page without having to change their link. Don't worry I did the same thing when I started out. LYRIC-Humbug wordsdeeds 14:39, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Oops, edit conflict… Humbug said it all, but since I don't like typing something and then throwing it away, here's my answer anyway… :-)
The thing about redirects is, unless you specifically look for them you usually won't get to see them. (Links to redirects in Other Songs sections can be removed, they won't be re-added by Janitor.) Also, note that this page was created by a human user, so it's not entirely impossible that another user would look for the same mistitled page. (Maybe an mp3 with a cut-off filename or ID3 tag…)
Good idea about creating a redirect with added ")". I've done that now. — 6x9 (Talk) 14:43, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Archiving Artist Subpages discussion

Mr. 42, I was wondering if you'd archive the oooooooge Artist Subpages discussion on the Community Portal. Please and thank you.

Also, please see the new topic I just posted. Thanks, The multi-coloured flying reptile 18:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

The topic doesn't seem to be resolved yet, and there might still be other points raised (like Will did just this morning), so I'm afraid it'll have to stay a bit longer. Anyway, the page has been far oooooger in the past, and people posted anyway, so I don't think those measly 35k will be a problem… — 6x9 (Talk) 20:35, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Cult of Luna/Cult Of Luna

Hi 6x9,

I see you just undid the redirection "Cult Of Luna" to "Cult of Luna". Why? I was currently in the process of changing all the pages. "Cult of Luna" is the way the band it self writes the name, and it is also the way its written at both English and Swedish Wikipedia.


Best regards, moonwreath

See LW:PN for a quick answer. — 6x9 (Talk) 20:54, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, and the page states:
  • T.A.T.u. instead of t.A.T.u.
In this example, the first letter is made capitalized for LyricWiki's purposes, but the remainder of the artist's name remains in its official format. So, if an album was named OdDly CaPiTaLIzeD, the name should be capitalized exactly as shown, not changed to Oddly Capitalized. If the initial letter of an artist's name is not normally capitalized, can be added to the top of the page which will allow the page to display with the initial letter in lower case.
Wouldn't it be the same thing for Cult of Luna?
"t.A.T.u." is treated as one "word", because there are no spaces inside, therefore the "u" is allowed to stay lowercase. "of", on the other hand, is a word (separated from the rest by spaces), and therefore falls under the "first-letter-of-each-word-capitalised" rule. — 6x9 (Talk) 21:02, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Okay I get it, thanks :) - moonwreath


This is looking a bit weird...and search box has gone too  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 06:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Odd about the search box… You'll have to ask Sean about that. Otherwise it looks normal to me, though. — 6x9 (Talk) 14:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
You mean it isn't displaying at 1024 width for you then?  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 00:40, 26 February 2009 (UTC) P.S. I just burst one ;)
The width is because of a long filename. If you upload enough images with short names so that the offender drops off the bottom, it should be back to normal :-) There's probably a couple hundred more emoticons you'd like to use anyway… — 6x9 (Talk) 00:51, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Now why didn't I think of that?
And yes, I have been collecting a few more emoticons. Here, have a shoe Shoe  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 01:07, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


So it didn't take you long either to spot Jim. I guess it just proves we are creatures of habit. SNLI hasn't come on my watchlist for months, nor has anyone tried changing the category structure for languages, and I think we all recognise his voice. It was kinda appropriate, don't you think, that Echo left him a welcome note? At least it's a bit different to the last one he got. Well I haven't got a problem with him coming here, but if he's going to start restructuring languages again and repeatedly reverting edits we make, he won't be here for very long. So if you're reading this Jim and you want to stick around, please take heed.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 05:11, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I didn't know leaving welcome notes for IP addreseses was discouraged? If I may comment on JC: He gets snooty with previous editors whose faults he finds, but then that's not restricted to JC. LOL ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 05:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Definitely not discouraged. (Otherwise Red & I wouldn't have updated the template just recently.) I think Red just meant that you already got roped into a discussion with him the last time, when he called himself Bartleby. Anyway, so far he hasn't done any further changes to categories. I'll keep an eye on 'im, though. — 6x9 (Talk) 13:57, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
So I guess it wasn't him who defined Gibraltar as a country then changed his mind? lol ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 14:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
No, that was Red… And I don't think she changed her mind, she just didn't go all the way for some reason… Explain yourself, Red! — 6x9 (Talk) 14:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm afraid Gibraltar is still part of the Dominion, unlike Canada q:b ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 14:39, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
I know women have special permission, which you men haven't, that allows us to change our minds (at will, over any given subject, at any given point in time, etc. etc.), and indeed I will admit to resorting to pulling rank on men by bringing this into play on the odd occasion, but this was not one of those occasions. For if you look, you will see that it was actually you Echo who defined it as being part of the UK, which as I pointed out to 6, it is not.
I will however concede that to designate Gibraltar as a "Country" is no more correct than entering UK as the country, or for that matter designating British counties as "State"(ssss), but unless we want to create another category:Category:Hometown/British Overseas Territories I thought this was the best solution. I still do.
So there ;p  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 14:48, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Or we could assume that the WP article actually meant "La Línea (near Gibraltar)" instead of Gibraltar and put Spain as country… no? — 6x9 (Talk) 15:04, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
If I was standing in Trafalgar square (or the train station in Reading) and I held a sign that said "Gibraltar is United Kingdom Territory", who would disagree? Nobody! If I had a sign that said "Gibraltar is a Country", I would be laughed all the way back to Scapa Flow (you may notice the connection btwn the two locations). You can change your mind as often as you have time to :) ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 15:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Correction. Although I would be dog gone tired after a weekend of heavy partying, if I saw you standing on the other side of the gate as I was leaving the Reading Festival, I would still summon up enough energy to inform you that you was wrong about Gibraltar being part of the UK. Ok you would probably take a swipe at me, but I'm tiny and although I can't run very fast, I'm very good at ducking ;) I've had lots of practice...  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 16:20, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, you get a few oddball separatists in every country :-) (Like the occasional LW user who insists to use Catalonia instead of Spain, or that Spanish isn't a real language…) In Germany it's mostly Bavarians, who seem to think they're something special because they get to call themselves "Freistaat" (which has no actual meaning whatsoever). — 6x9 (Talk) 19:14, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
(I'm just seeing how far over to the right this will go) Oddball? Me? An oddball? Cyclops1 Rfl. I've been called many things but that's a new one. I'll add it to my collection ;)
On a more serious note, I found this article very interesting.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 20:41, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
The placement of Gibraltar in our existing categories is pretty clear... hint:Puerto Rico, Guam etc. ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 19:52, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
The particular problem of Gibraltar will eventually be solved by global warming, when the only bit left above water level will be the rock, and the only Gibraltarians left will be apes. — 6x9 (Talk) 21:09, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
at which point London will be inhibited by fish ;) ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 21:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Better that than actually inhabited by fish (or Fish) ;-) — 6x9 (Talk) 21:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
I've always felt that fish were a bit inhibiting too Echo. It's got something to do with their eyes... ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 22:19, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
What , no emoticon? ><)))*> — 6x9 (Talk) 22:26, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Rflmao. Very good. A koala >>> @(*o*)@ Oh and btw I can swim because I am actually a fish. It's my birthday in just over 2 weeks. I don't think I really need to tell you the date (rflmao).  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 23:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Wondered if this might be any help and perhaps we could have a whip-round for a trip to Gibraltar for Reds birthday ;)  Ñôīέ2çяȳTalk 23:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Sloth? (´o`) Sure, Gibraltar isn't that far. Took me less than 3 weeks on a bike to get there. Of course, that was when I was still young… Admit it, you're just hoping to get out from under her watchful eye :-)6x9 (Talk) 23:48, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Phew..I had to brave going back in again..I thought it was a sloth but of course it was a Barbary Macaque sitting on his rocks. I think they can be a bit cheeky from what I've heard because they are used to hordes of tourists. Plus I didn't like the way they was looking at me. I reckon they may have heard that I got a Spanish surname. Or perhaps they just heard about me. So I guess to be on the safe side, if you do send me there I'd better cover it from both angles and tell them that a) I'm not the enemy and b) I'm extremely misunderstood.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 00:00, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Well, considering how regularly you misunderstand others, it's only fair that they get to misunderstand you in turn :-) — 6x9 (Talk) 02:43, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Ok so maybe I do get it wrong sometimes and make a complete arse of myself, but at least I always try to understand. Even at the risk of making a complete arse of myself. I think I deserve a little credit for that.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 03:02, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry. I was just teasing. And I wasn't really in danger of bursting a vessel earlier on the CP… I just don't like repeating myself, so whenever I have to clarify I tend to "over-clarify" which occasionally (alright, often (alright, nearly always)) comes across as aggressive, though it's not meant to. Peace? Here, have a fish:
Hmmm, looks rather dead… Let's see if I can find a live one… Ah, here:
6x9 (Talk) 03:14, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
You're forgiven. Peace  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 03:44, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Needing reverting and probably a note

RosaGet (Talk | contribs) Lill-Babs:Är Du Kär I Mig ännu, Klas-Göran? moved to Lill-Babs:Är du kär i mig ännu, Klas-Göran
   RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   21:30, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

I've moved the page back and left a note on RosaGet's talk page. Thanks for the notice! — 6x9 (Talk) 00:04, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Are you looking over my shoulder?

Rfl..Too damn quick for me. I trust you approve of my actions though..  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 23:52, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

No, just happened to check my watchlist this moment. And when I read "corrected song name" when I myself created the songlist, I know someone has made a mistake :-)
Not quite sure whether it's an improvement this way… All I know is that when I would look for Beefheart lyrics, I'd search for "Captain Beefheart" first and only then look for all the C.B. & Magic Band variations. I doubt anyone would do it the other way around… It's a compromise either way (unless we want to create several artist pages), and if we have to compromise, we might as well err on the side of user-friendliness. — 6x9 (Talk) 00:03, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
Not quite sure whether it's an improvement this way? If you search Captain Beefheart you'll find this page. I decided in my infinite wisdom to leave it as Captain Beefheart ;) Look at individual album pages, I think you'll approve.
Anyway I've had enough Beef for one night, so I'm going for a change of scene. Somewhere on the site on one of the albums (Decals I think) it said lyrics were from linear notes and differed slightly to those sung so they do need checking. Probably formatting too. But good on you for addressing the Cap'n. One thing I know we totally agree on is that he definitely deserved a better page!  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 00:45, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

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