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Instrumental song pages and language identification

Hi folks, I've been adding quite a number of album/song pages and I had a question that the FAQ doesn't have an answer for. I have gotten into the habit of always making sure that I have the language parameter filled out but the other day it occurred to me that a song page that is only "Instrumental" really shouldn't need language identification as there are no lyrics, but to keep the folks happy that want all songs language identified I put "English" in the language parameter. Should I keep identifying instrumental pages as English or is it okay to leave that parameter blank. Thoughts? Comments?

I may not find my way back to this page again to see your reply so would one of you kind folks also CC me on my talk page?

Please and thank you,

RainbowDragon 17:07, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

For instrumental song pages, we have created the category Category:Language/Instrumental. Just place |language = Instrumental as the language parameter. This way, we don't have a bunch of unidentified pages and it doesn't make it exclusive to one language. --WillMak050389 17:37, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Songs with multiple stars

I thought I ought to mention this since I haven't seen anything about it. There are songs, ranked from green to gold, that is also listed as black songs. What they have in common are that they are listed on multiple albums but only one of the listed (usually the first) have a non-black star. It was probably caused by that the black star was only added recently, and people (and bots?) until now have only added the star to the first album. Then when the black star was added, the songs ended up in that category as well. What to do? There are probably a lot of them and they are not easy to find. --Pauline 12:59, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

We're working on this. Eventually, all song pages will only have one {{Song}} template (and therefore only one star); we're still not quite decided how to include multiple albums, but we'll get there. After that a bot will probably go through all song pages and convert the multiple song templates. Until then it's best to simply ignore the black stars. -- 6x9 (Talk) 17:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
To avoid the song appearing in the wrong page rank category you could also add the paramater |star= to the other Song templates on the song's page and rank these with the same colour as the first, i.e. green, bronze, etc..  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 02:00, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Delete rights for Page-Creators

I'd like to ask for delete-rights for pages I created because I often have to tag pages with the deletion mark and it would also save you trouble;-)
Coop 16:02, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't know whether that's possible (Aquatiki might, if Sean isn't available). If the page name isn't too far off the mark (as seems to be the case with those Puhdys songs), it's better to redirect them anyway. -- 6x9 (Talk) 17:47, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
That is a pity^^ Well, there is no need to redirect those songs I marked because they are mostly doubles/clones/duplicates (don't know which word is correct) or just wrong - so save you the trouble to try to redirect them Coop 18:15, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Duplicates are exactly when a redirect is the best procedure. (If a page had a wrong title and the correct page didn't exist, you'd simply move it). See Help:Redirect and LyricWiki:Deletion for further info. -- 6x9 (Talk) 18:26, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Uh - according to the help-pages you are right and I am wrong ^^ Sorry. I mixed the meaning of "move" and "redirect" a bit up. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Coop (talkcontribs). 12:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Where do we draw the line with explicit lyrics?

Hello guys and gals,

More specifically, I wanted to know what is considered acceptable and unacceptable as far as "cuss words". Many, many, many songs have either hell or damn in them but I wondered if the ones to be tagged as explicit would be like what you aren't supposed to hear on TV.

Acceptable on normal pages or no no's? (asterisks added in order to not offend)

This list isn't all-inclusive by any means, but I just wanted to get a general sense of what the standards are around here. RainbowDragon 16:17, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

iTunes has songs flagged as explicit, and so do music publishers put in on CDs, so those songs/albums can be flagged, anything beyond that is risqué. ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 16:39, 26 December 2008 (UTC
Thank you for the info :-) RainbowDragon 17:01, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Informative article on Wikipedia >> Parental Advisory. Also, it would do no harm to add the {{Parental Advisory}} template to the Song page if in doubt.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 17:09, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
Personally, I don't see that the Parental Advisory templates have much of a use. We don't censor here, and I don't think that anyone believes that those searching for KoRn lyrics, for example, are going to be surprised that they include f-bombs and the like. You can use it, but I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to add them. They're liable to get removed by a later editor and that wouldn't be against any policy. It's an editor's choice kind of thing.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   18:36, 26 December 2008 (UTC)