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A Series Of Albums All With Various Artists

I'll try my best to describe what I'm trying to do and hope you folks will know the answer.

In my personal song catalog I have a series of Albums called, "Super Hits Of The 70s: Have A Nice Day, Vol. 1 through Vol. 25." Each album is named exactly the same except for volume number. Each album contains exactly 12 tracks.

Each and every one of these volumes contain tracks from various artists, I'm not exactly sure how to combine them all on to one page. If they were all by one artist it would be easy, simply place all the albums and their tracks on the Artist page. Since this is a compilation series, how would I go about creating the equivalent to an Artist Page so I could house all the Albums, album art and track names all on the same page? Thanks in advance,    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs  

Although the best person to answer your post is Kiefer, I was just passing through so I'll just pre-empt his response.
Ok well for starters most various artists and soundtrack albums aren't actually listed on any artist (or artist type) pages. We just let them float about out there in the big blue yonder (lol). what I'm trying to say is it isn't compulsory. Secondly, people tackle these situations differently, some do indeed create artist type pages but personally I think that's a bad idea and tends to create problems. Thirdly as it is an album (box set) I would create an album page as per usual. The artwork can still be applied to each individual section with the {{Album Art}} template and the discs split with appropriate headers. I hope that helps you in the interim.
 ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 21:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay then, unless Kiefer or anybody else says differently, I'll treat them all as being one album with multiple discs.    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs  
You may also look at the Bravo Hits series of compilations. I created a compilation album page for each one and used a common banner and a category to keep them together. --Hfs·· 22:02, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I hadn't seen this approach before, HS. I like! I think adding a banner should be the standard from now on for such compilation series. I think that there should, however, be a disambiguation-type page for such series, with a either a bulleted list of each album (but no tracklists) or even just the series template. So, there should be a Bravo Hits or Bravo Hits Series page. (We would probably have to discuss in the Community Portal which pagenaming standard we would want, either the nice and plain or the more descriptive.) Someone really needs to make a generic {{Series}} template to match the {{Bravo Hits}} one. ***hint-hint***
As for this particular example, if they were sold as a set, and weren't spread out over various years, as with the Bravo Hits series, then a single page at Super Hits Of The 70s: Have A Nice Day (2008) (or whatever the year of release was) would be appropriate. (Thanks Redxx!)    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   05:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I had seen that before. Well done Hs! Yes a generic template would be good. We could probably do it between us Kiefer but I know that like me you think we should leave it to the experts ***hint-hint*** ;)  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 05:29, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I need help with a song page link not cooperating

Itried typing {{Help Me}} on the talk page for the page in question but it gives me a red link. I've been editing Super Hits Of The '70s-Have A Nice Day (1990)

On Disc 5 I created a song page for Here Comes The Sun by Richie Havens. If you click on the link it shows it as a page with the edit window open and all the lyrics are there. Clicking save page appears to save it and if you go to Richie Havens artist page and click on Here Comes The Sun, it will take you straight to the song page. Why is the link on the album page not working? HELP!!!    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   19:23, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

I was also having trouble with slow loading pages. Both problems seem to be fixed. -- JubilantDragon

Lol Glad you're sorted! See you're even cleverer than you thought you were! :-)  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 21:01, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
A red link automatically takes you to the edit page, even if the page in question has been created by then. If reloading the page doesn't help (i.e. link still shows as red), your browser apparently loads the page from its cache. With IE, you can overriding the cache by hitting CTRL + F5, most other browsers should have a similar option. If that still doesn't help, you can always empty the cache.
PS. The template you wanted to use is called {{Helpme}}, but now we have this neat helpdesk it shouldn't be used anymore. It will probably get deleted eventually. — 6x9 (Talk) 21:11, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Some questions

  • When I create new songs, I have to put the album-name in the {{Song}}- and the {{SongFooter}}-template. Is it possible to analyze the article where the red link was clicked and set the information automatically. At example, the red link for the song Axxis:Better Fate from Axxis looks like this: http://lyricwiki.org/index.php?title=Axxis:Better_Fate&action=edit&redlink=1. Is it possible to give a red link of a album-page another parameter with the album-name and year? This would save much work.
  • I want to see all Artists for a country (a. e. Germany) where city and/or state are not set. Is that possible? -- Acccept 13:09, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
I'll leave the first one to the experts. The second one (hometown) *will* be possible with Semantic, but until then it would require some fiendishly complex code in {{ArtistHeader}}. — 6x9 (Talk) 20:30, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
The best I could come up with Acccept is :Category:Hometown/Unknown.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 01:24, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Oh and with regards to the other question, this is in fact already in place. I was going to keep it a secret but...(lol) Anyhow try this:

  1. Create a link in the {{Song}} template to the (non existent) album
  2. Save the song page
  3. Click on the album link
  4. Tra la! http://www.jesseshunting.com/forums/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

 ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 02:38, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you should have read the questions first :-) Acccept wanted it the other way around – go to existing album page, click on red link of non-existing song, have album magically inserted in song template. And Hometown/Unknown isn't very useful if you want pages where country *is* specified, just state & hometown aren't. Must resist… must resist… must resist… must resist… Bad Hair Day? Aaarghhh!6x9 (Talk) 03:36, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Sure, you can see all artists from Germany (at least the ones that have been designated as from Germany at Category:Hometown/Germany. No need for Semantics on this one, guys!    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   03:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Yes, but Hometown/Germany lists ALL artists with country=Germany, whether state & hometown are specified or not. If you want ONLY pages WITH country=Germany (or whatever) BUT state & hometown blank, you'll need semantic. — 6x9 (Talk) 03:36, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Hee hee. Ok glad to see your taking your role as official interpreter seriously 6x9 ;) And yes, maybe I did misunderstand Acccept's first question (which is why I delayed on answering), but not his second. That's why I said it was "the best I could come up with" because we don't categorise by "State/Unknown", only "Hometown/Unknown", where hometown in this instance doesn't mean that only town/city are missing, but country and state too :p  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 15:44, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
We had related discussions about this type of problems before. For every parameter on every page type, we need a Category that displays pages where
  1. Parameter is "empty" (in this case Country is filled, but State and/or hometown is empty)
  2. Parameter is "undefined" (the entire country/state/hometown fields is not on the page at all)
Which explains why we have artist pages that should be in the :Category:Hometown/Unknown Category, but are not: Option 1.
Always helps when the question is raised by our rank and file contributors ;) thank you Acccept. ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 16:00, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

Some more infos…

  1. If country isn't specified, state and hometown are ignored even if specified, and the page will still end up in Hometown/Unknown.
  2. Whether the country parameter is present-but-blank or not present at all doesn't matter – in both cases the page ends up in Hometown/Unknown. Eventually. (Categories are generally behaving oddly: e.g. in Special:Categories, Category:Language/ still shows as having 1 member, but the only page there (our old friend with the &thorn;) has been cleared out of it for weeks.)
  3. Option 1 isn't in Hometown/Unknown because it has no ArtistHeader, and the old Hometown template doesn't add pages to Hometown/Unknown. (I could change that, but since AH or at least Collaboration will eventually be on all artist pages anyway, I don't think that's necessary.)
  4. Categories for *every* empty parameter would sort-of imply that *every* parameter needs to be filled, which isn't true. (State wouldn't make sense in some countries, hometown wouldn't make sense with some bands…) Do we really want "Songs without iTunes link", "Artists without Wikipedia page" etc.? (This will change of course when we get Semantic – then we *need* to distinguish between parameter-not-filled-in and parameter-not-applicable in order to automate page ranking.)

Yikes… if we go on like that, we'll scare people away from the help desk!6x9 (Talk) 16:32, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

*cough* Category:Songs Needing iTunes Help, Category:Songs Needing Wikipedia Help, Category:Songs Needing Amazon Help...etc. etc. Maybe we should put those on the "How Can I contribute page" that Sean edited earlier in place of the outdated dead links... ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 02:53, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
The thing is, the pages are removed from these categories when you replace "unknown" with "not applicable". When you put "wikipedia = not applicable" or "asin = not applicable" in the SongFooter, you'll get an undesired result. (Though that can be fixed by adding a dozen {{#ifeq:}}s to SF…) If you add a space before the *, the paragraph won't be indented either; that's a lot quicker than wrapping it in nowiki tags.6x9 (Talk) 03:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

WikEd

Is there a way to disable it? It makes editing completely impossible for me. Example The text area is completely empty and I can't even bring it into focus. Using Konqueror 3.5.9. Posting in Iceweasel now, I see that there is a button to toggle it, but like all of the other buttons, it does nothing when clicked in Konqueror. 24.26.206.11 22:09, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

The button at the very top right corner of a pencil over an edit box (it looks like a small version of Image:WikEd logo39x40 animated.gif) should work. Clicking on it should gray it out (sometimes it takes a few clicks for me) and this will disable WikEd. Hope that helps! --WillMak050389 00:34, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
As I said, the button does nothing no matter how many times it's clicked. 24.26.206.11 00:49, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
If you've tried clicking several times, the only other advice I could give you is to register with a username and try again. It may not be accepting being shut off by an IP (I thought I tried an IP disabling WikEd and it worked, but you never know). Anyway, it's worth a shot, and if that doesn't work, I have no other ideas. You'd have to ask the more internet-code knowledged people for some help. --WillMak050389 06:45, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
On a couple of occasions I have accidentally clicked on the wikEd button, and then attempted to click to turn it off. When I was impatient and tried re-clicking when nothing happened, it didn't work, but then I tried again, without re-clicking, and then it turned off after a bit of a wait. However it works may just need a moment or two to shut down. Just a suggestion that may or may not help.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   03:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Centering a wiki table on a page (low priority - reply when you're bored)

I was wondering how I'd go about centering a wiki table containing my userboxes in the center of the page. Right now it is over to the left of the page. I tried adding <center> and </center> before and after the table but it still wants to align left on the page. What am I overlooking? --   RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   19:35, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

You're using the wrong browser – on my (t)rusty old IE6, the table with the userboxes sits slap in the middle :-) For inferior browsers (tee hee) you could try putting it in a new cell of the "outer" table (the green one) and centering that cell's content (with style="text-align:center"). — 6x9 (Talk) 19:44, 28 January 2009 (UTC) PS. You might want to close your wikitables with "|}" ("|-}" doesn't work).
Don't know how much it'll help but you can look at the wiki-markup on my page. I have it aligned right, but you should be able to replace it with center and have it work. I'm not too sure and can't test it now, but it may help. --WillMak050389 22:57, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Song appears on multiple albums, but lyrics change

Hey, just wondering what the correct procedure is when a song is on more than one album, but the artist changes some of the words on the newer record. Should a new song page be added for that version of the song or what? Battlewithin 20:15, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Depends on how different the lyrics are. Very minor differences ("it is" vs. "it's", "going" vs. "goin'" and such) can be ignored. If it's just one verse, or a couple of words, you can note the differences in a section below the lyrics box. If you feel the differences are big enough to warrant a separate page, create it, adding a suitable disambiguation phrase – " (ALBUM TITLE Version)" or " (YEAR version)" – to the page name. — 6x9 (Talk) 22:58, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Cool. Thanks for the info. I already added a new page for one, but I think I have the naming wrong. Screeching_Weasel:Hey_Suburbia_KTM is my new page. The guy actually changes the entire ending of this song, but they have a few others that an entire line or two is different. I feel it's a little awkward looking below the lyrics box for alternative lyrics, so I'd like to get the naming of the pages correct so I can link them to the correct albums. Thanks again for the help, much appreciated! :) Battlewithin 11:59, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

How should bonus tracks be listed in albums?

Hi. how should bonus tracks be listed in album or artist pages? eg: tracks that are only in special editions of albums, digipaks .eu .jp .au releases etc.

See Machine Head for my guess.

cheers, DimmO 00:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes that's fine Dimmo. The other way is to list these tracks separately under a {{H4}} header, i.e.:
{{OL|header=2009 Special Edition Bonus Tracks|nr= 12|
#1='''[[Machine Head:Alan's On Fire|Alan's On Fire]]'''|
#2='''[[Machine Head:Battery|Battery]]'''}}
{{Clear}}

Which results in:

2009 Special Edition Bonus Tracks
  1. Alan's On Fire
  2. Battery

 ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 02:20, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks - that's a better way; You can have multiple special editions that way, each with correct numbering for the bonus tracks.
This brings up another question though: how should the album be referenced in the bonus tracks' song footer templates? just to the "regular" album? -- DimmO 03:53, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
The actual album name. Whilst bonus tracks are usually released on special editions and reissues, this does not usually lead to the album being renamed.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 09:38, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Duets and other songs by multiple artists

I'm not sure how to deal with songs credited to multiple artists, when it is not clear that one artist can be identified as the primary contributor. Specifically, what should the format be for creating the song page? I found Nat King Cole & Natalie Cole:Unforgettable as an example that seems okay, but it also would be nice to be able to link to the individual artists from the song page. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cgage22 (talkcontribs). 22:19, 17 February 2009

Hi Cgage22
If you look at that song again and follow the link to the artist page you may notice a slight difference :-) For collaborations such as the example you have given we can use the {{Collaboration}} template.
But in answer to your question, a song should be listed within the album on the page of the artist who released the album it appears on. (Phew! That was a mouthful!) You can also list individual songs on which a particular artist features in the "Other Songs" list (or an appropriately named section) on their artist page. Hope that helps.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 00:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. As an example, I've been updating Chef Aid: The South Park Album (1998) and come across this several times. Since this is a soundtrack, there is no one artist for the album. Would this be a situation to use the Collaboration template, even though this would result in up to four collaborators on some songs? --cgage22 01:48, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Aah no. Please have a look around the help pages, in particular look at this page. But I checked what has been done on Chef Aid: The South Park Album (1998) page and everything is good. Seems like it basically just needs cover art. You could copy each track on put it on the respective artist's page if you wanted, but you don't have to. Compilation albums and soundtracks do not have artist pages. These albums only have an album page.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 03:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
That still doesn't quite answer my question. If you'll look closer at Chef Aid: The South Park Album (1998), you'll notice that I have only formatted the first track, Primus:South Park Theme, to my satisfaction. The subsequent tracks are still formatted improperly, in my opinion. For example, the second track, Southpark:DMX, Ozzy & Ol' Dirty Bastard - Nowhere To Run, is formatted so that the artist reads as 'Southpark' and the song name reads as 'DMX, Ozzy & Ol' Dirty Bastard - Nowhere To Run'. My best guess would be to move the page to DMX, Ozzy & Ol' Dirty Bastard:Nowhere To Run, which would correctly designate the artist and song title. However this would lead to an artist collaboration with only one credited song. Another alternative would be to simply designate one artist as the primary contributor and have the rest be featured on the song, but this could be an arbitrary selection. Basically, I'm not sure what to do?!? --cgage22 04:46, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
My apologies totally my fault I understand where you are coming from now. You want to know how you should formulate the page name where several different artists are attributed to the song. Well whether it is two or four it still should be formatted the same. So yes I would move the songs and format them like Primus, i.e. with the artists but without South Park. Note the Crystal Method.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 10:22, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I think that clears it up. If I can only figure out why my page appears to have been deleted; Chef Aid: The South Park Album (1998). Any ideas? --cgage22 18:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
It wasn't deleted, it was accidentally moved to Chef Aid: The South Park Album (1998) – I guess EchoSierra thought "Chef Aid" was the album's artist, not part of the album title. I moved it back again. — 6x9 (Talk) 18:45, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
My apologies, I thought the space after the colon was redundant so I moved it. Doesn't hurt to keep the redirect as well cheers ∃cho⚡ierr∀ () 19:03, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks --cgage22 21:58, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

Misattributed Song with Unknown Correct Artist

I know that songs attributed to the wrong artist should be moved to the appropriate artist's page, but what if the correct artist is not known? The page in question is: Nirvana:Yes,_She's_My_Skinhead. The song is clearly a cover, but I have no idea what artist is doing the cover that the page's creator is thinking of (and then incorrectly attributed to Nirvana). I was going to mark the page for deletion because I can't find any evidence that they ever covered this song, but what should I do in this case? -- Patheticmofo 03:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

You could leave an appropriate note on the song's talk page to let others know you believe it to be incorrectly attributed, but I'm afraid the song will have to remain there until the correct artist can be found. If we delete the page a bot will only recreate it next time he sweeps up.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 03:23, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
After doing some research I found the original version is Unrest:Yes, She Is My Skinhead. It was probably generated by the bot because a lot of other lyrics sites have it attributed to Nirvana. The only evidence I found outside of lyrics sites is [1], which purports that Nirvana is playing the song. However, the talk page includes a lengthy discussion on whether this is true. I say we can delete the page and its link on Nirvana. --cgage22 05:13, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you cgage22 for looking into that. But no we won't delete the page for the reason I have given above. What we do now is redirect the incorrectly named page to the correctly named page. See Help:FAQ.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 05:30, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Why would the bot recreate it? I thought the bot would only recreate links for "orphaned" songs as described in the FAQs. I suppose it is better to redirect it anyways in this case for people who think Nirvana is the artist, but I'm not clear on why we would be unable to delete it. --cgage22 05:43, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
It would be recreated next time bot swept the internet for new songs, since the song Nirvana:Yes, She's My Skinhead would not by then exist.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 19:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for clarifying. --cgage22 21:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for that as well. The page does mention that the original version was by Unrest, but I wanted to know what artist was doing the cover, since its definitely not Nirvana (as cgage22 pretty much helped affirm). So should I just go ahead and set up a redirect to the original song? -- Patheticmofo 23:16, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Yep. You'll be doing it quite a bit so best start now ;). FAQ page is good page to refer to and help pages are kept pretty much up to date so if you get stuck look there. If you can't find your answers there, just post here and I will be happy to assist. Happy editing!  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 00:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Sorry about the delay, I was out of town. Yes you're right I see I'll be doing this quite a bit: looks like there might be several misattributed songs on the Nirvana page so I'll have to make time to verify/fix all of that! I assume that now that I've redirected the page, I should just remove it from the list in the "Other Songs" section? I'm just making sure here. Thanks again, Redxx. --Patheticmofo 22:43, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Yep exactly right again. Now you've redirected song you can remove it from the page and it won't ever come back. The bot will place it on correct page in due course.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 23:07, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Portuguese language wikipedia

How do I get the wikipedia link in the Artist header to cooperate with a non-English wiki page? I tried to add Exaltasamba to the Exaltasamba page and it displays as a broken link. --    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   17:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Try pt:Exaltasamba and I think, any non-English wikipedia link should go under the "wikipedia2 = " parameter. --WillMak050389 17:42, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Song featuring an artist with a disambiguous tag

On the artist page Mayhem (Klippa) the song "Real Fucking Monster" features Azrael (Klippa) (artist page coming soon to a lyricwiki near you!). Unless I'm missing something, it appears that {{ft}} does not allow disambiguous artists unless you include the disambiguous tag in the displayed name of the artist. Should the tag be displayed, disambiguous artists not use {{ft}}, or...? For now I've used small tags to emulate the effect of the template. -- DarkProdigy 23:04, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

The problem is that the pipe character "|" would be called by the template {{ft}} itself, when you want it to be called by the link from the template. In situations like this, you should call the {{!}} template. Take a look at your above example. I have fixed it up now. --WillMak050389 23:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Compilation album links within each various artist page

I started a page for the compilation spoken word album "Kicks Joy Darkness: A Tribute To Jack Kerouac (1997)". I've used the templates and everything has been pretty straightforward so far, but when I have a link to one of the various artists that didn't have a previous entry, for example, "Jack Kerouac" as artist, and add him using the template, the resulting album is NOT listed as a "compilation" album, but rather a new album attributed to this artist. How to I add the compilation album to the artist page so that the resulting link is to the correct compilation rather than creating a new album of the same name as the compilation that is attributed to each of the various artists? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jaxparo (talkcontribs).

All you would need to do is simply make the link without the artist's name. I also like to indicate that it is not a studio album by saying the tracks are "from Kicks Joy Darkness: A Tribute To Jack Kerouac (1997)" or such. For an example: see dc Talk's contributions on the compilation Yo! Ho Ho!. --WillMak050389 20:02, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

translation

Dear Sirs,
I am trying to get a translation for an Italian song into English. I tried using your directions, but am having trouble. Is there a way you can help me with more explicit directions. Thanks, Don — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rufman1 (talkcontribs).

It helps if you provide the lyrics, so it can be translated. creating a blank song page doesn't help, as far as I can tell from your 1 edit ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 14:15, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Songs from the shows

What is the correct protocol for recording the "original" of a song from a show? And how do you do it? For example, The Impossible Dream (The Quest) was written for the Broadway show that later turned into the film "Man of La Mancha". The original Broadway cast did a recording, with Richard Kiley singing, Simon Gilbert sings on the soundtrack to the film (in which Peter O'Toole plays the part of Quixote), Andy Williams did the version that everyone knows from the Honda ads, Sarah Connor released the only single version,and everyone and their dog has recorded it as well. To complicate matters, when Sinatra recorded it, he changed some of the lyrics ('pure and chaste from afar' doesn't particularly fit Old Blue Eyes' reputation after all). There are probably 50 versions of this song in LyricWiki, most of them need editing, and none of them is marked as a cover. How do you create a "this is the lyric from the show and these are the covers of it" entry?

It's the same with Mack the Knife. There are 30-odd versions of it, but no link between them and indication that they are all covers of two translations, Blitzstein/Armstrong ('54 Broadway version, Armstrong, Bobby Darin and Robbie Williams among others) and Mannheim/Willet ('76 Broadway version, film, Sting and Nick Cave).

What's the 'right' way to tackle standards such as these?--Elen of the Roads 01:05, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Please see here. Richard Kiley is the "original" artist. All the rest are covers. Hope that helps.  ♫Яєdxx Actions Words 11:53, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

No search results

I added a complete album a week ago. I can find it only by searching on the artist, and then click on another result, and back to their albumlist! I cant find any of the songs from new album via lyricwiki.org either!

The artist in question is Mimikry and the songs are all the ones from the album Alderland (2008) wich name is included on all lyricspages! I am no pro to this, but I actually belive I did everything correct when adding the album and its total lyrics here!

So how about making it searchable :)

(michael 11:37, 31 March 2009 (UTC))

Hi. The search is provided externally by Google. It was chosen because it provided better search results than the internal wiki search function. Google visits all pages only periodically to see if they have changed. That's why it takes a while (I'd guess at least a week) until changes and new pages show up in search results. --Hfs·· 16:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Protect or semi-protect

Would somebody please protect or semi-protect T.I. please? An anonymous user keeps changing pages even after they've been reverted. --    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   22:48, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Medley Songs

How do I name medley songs (by example this Carpenter's song)? Or do I split up each song to its own page, linking all to the Artist or Album page? Thanks -- Andero 17:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

See song page now.  Яєdxx Actions Words 15:22, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
The problem with splitting the song into 5 different pages is that it's really one song (in this particular recording) and the entire lyrics needs to go into one song lyric 'field' with one set of lyric tags, and I guess humans would rather see it in on one page as well ;) ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 15:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Yes Echo is right, it is one song so we keep them all on one page. But so as not to confuse, with these types of song the usual practice is not to put the entire lyrics between one set of lyrics tags, but to to split the song into the relevant sections, each with their own set of lyric tags (as I have done on that page).  Яєdxx Actions Words 17:19, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
The problem with this practice is that it goes against the policy of avoiding non lyrics in the lyric box. The extra tags and headings are unnecessary, just like sectioning each verse into it's own box might look cute, but it's unnecessary. The great majority of our users (not admins) who access lw with digital players (vs. viewing on the web) will have to edit out those section headings and extra lyric tags. Red, not being in that group, did not consider that eventuality. Hope that clears up the confusion. ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 18:14, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Actually, it keeps the non-lyrics out of the lyrics tags, by placing the song division titles between the lyrics tags. It's an inconvenience perhaps for the digital player users, but they need to talk to the programmers of their particular widget/script/gizmo to get this rarely-used situation updated so that it displays properly for them.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   20:56, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
I don't see how you can hold the position that <lyrics></lyrics> is somehow part of the lyrics for certain songs, while current lw api standard only supports one set of lyric tags? If your proposed scheme is to become the standard (allowing nested tags) then it has to be stated as such be the developer of the lw api (that would be Sean) who (to the best of my knowledge and available documentation) has neither declared such a scheme nor has he implemented it. I admire your insistence that many developers should follow the taste of a handful of lw admins to satisfy the majority of our community while you have failed to persuade the One and Only site owner! ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 21:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
We've been over this subject before. I don't think we need to do it again here. It certainly isn't the place. A handful of LW admins means the majority of active admins, however...a consensus. You're not happy with that, I get that. But Redxx gave the currently correct answer.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   02:33, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
The community portal is the first door down the foyer, feel free to haul in the record player from the admin portal. What happened to let the community decide? :) ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 03:18, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
The community already decided, ES. I'm good with the status quo.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   03:35, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Where's the link? ∃cho⚡ierr∀ ( ) 19:20, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Great, Redxx. Thanks everybody. Andero 04:08, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
You're welcome Andero.  Яєdxx Actions Words 22:25, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Different album "acts" and a song in parts

I've added Green Day's new album (to be released next month) but have a problem. The album is split up into 3 "acts". I have split these up using the method from the "bonus tracks" topic near the top of this page. The problem is that in the 3rd act there is a song that is also broken up into 2 parts.

This is what it should look like:

ACT III HORSESHOES AND HANDGRENADES
  1. Horseshoes and Handgrenades
  2. The Static Age
  3. 21 Guns
  4. American Eulogy

BUT I need the track numbers to start at 14. I've tried lots of things including this:

{{H4|ACT III HORSESHOES AND HANDGRENADES}}{{OL||nr= 14|
#1= '''{{lw|Green Day:Horseshoes and Handgrenades|Horseshoes and Handgrenades}}'''|
#2= '''[[Green Day:The Static Age|The Static Age]]'''|
#3= '''[[Green Day:21 Guns|21 Guns]]'''|
#4= '''[[American Eulogy|American Eulogy]]'''|
#* '''[[Green Day:American Eulogy#a) Mass Hysteria|a) Mass Hysteria]]'''|
#* '''[[Green Day:American Eulogy#b) Modern World|b) Modern World]]'''}}

But that just results in the part a and part b being missing altogether. At the moment I've done a very crude fix that makes it appear ALMOST correctly but I would still like to be able to do it "properly".  Talk  Chromana   13:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

ACT III HORSESHOES AND HANDGRENADES
  1. Horseshoes and Handgrenades
  2. The Static Age
  3. 21 Guns
  4. American Eulogy, including:
Any good?  Яєdxx Actions Words 15:49, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Perfect :)  Talk  Chromana   17:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Page Rank Frage / Question

Ich habe mal ne Frage , hoffe das jemand deutsches das hier liest. Brauche ein wenig hilfe bei diesem ganzen Page rank zeugs. Was ist wenn es im ganzen WWW kein video oder Hörprobe oder sowas von nem Song gibt ? weil er einfach sooo unglaublich langweilig ist , 5 sekunden geht und dazu nur ein instrumental. Kann ich die information dann weglassen, und den Song trotzdem auf Gold stellen?
Danke schonmal für eure hilfe.

K , I try in English: I need a little help with the Page Rank System. e.g: there is a song. and this song is sooooo unbelievable boring, duration is 5 sec. and it is an instrumental means : there is no video and no chance to listen to it in the whole WWW. Question: Can I now leave this informations but rank this song Gold?
Thnx for the Help

Edited by the Greaaat AtzeX 16:58, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Green check Echo replied on user's talk page.

Noone here?

What shall I type in when there is nothing Available. For Example : timed = n.A

There is no entry for the songs I'm working on. What now ?

To credits, is it enough to write down the label?

cheers Edited by the Greaaat AtzeX 11:11, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Green check Echo replied on user's talk page.

Reissued album: lyrics differences

I posted this on the album itself but I'll echo it here, since this seems the correct place to ask. I've started adding lyrics to the albums of The Gufs which I own, but when going over this album in particular, I noticed that they changed the songs around some with regard to lyrics. I've merely added lyrics to the songs that didn't exist before I added them, but some songs already existed before I added the album, and it seems that the lyrics of these songs were of the original album version. Should I just add the reissued lyrics below the existing ones? BWIceSoldier 23:59, 23 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia says:Holiday From You was re-released on Red Submarine Records, with some alternate tracks and revamped artwork, in 2006.
If you consider the changes are such that it would be better to create a new page, then create one, perhaps appending (Alt.). Otherwise make a note on existing page.  Яєdxx Actions Words 00:08, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
Just to clarify: if the changes are fairly significant (new verse, changed line, added choruses, etc.), then create a new page with some sort of parenthetical add-on to the pagename, such as (Alternate) or (Remix) or (Live Version), etc. If the changes are a few words then a note about the different album variations below the lyrics is acceptable. Basically, if it's easy enough to describe in a few sentences, do so. If it would take more explaining, then create a new page. Happy editing!    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   00:22, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
How about what I did with Last Goodbye? I can only compare against the lyrics that were already up here (Last Goodbye/Stuck/Give Back Yourself/Mistake) since I only have the reissue, so I can't provide a complete lyric comparison. But here's a start. BWIceSoldier 03:08, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
It seems to be the same story with songs that were included in the self-titled album. Many of these were lifted from Collide, but there are a few new songs on it. In addition, the songs lifted from Collide had different lyrics. Smile, thankfully, was similar enough to the recording I have that I just added an additional album. However, the rest aren't that similar. What I'd like to do is just move the existing songs to a new page, adding (1996 ver.) like I did with Last Goodbye and Stuck. Is this okay? BWIceSoldier 05:52, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Your ring tone sponsor is a spammer

Just for the hell of it, I clicked on one of the ringtone links that you guys added a while ago. They claim to send a text message, but I never got one. What I have been getting is plenty of text message spam. I only did this because I trust your site. Did you know your ring tone sponsor is a spammer? Dan 16:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Wow, not cool. Thanks for reporting this Dan. I clicked on a link from Pink Floyd:Time to try to see if I could put my number in and get the same thing. However, the service I got sent to was one where you sign up and they charge you $10 a month or something until you text STOP to 63232. So it sounds like a different place. Which reminds me...
The way those links work is that the actual affiliate we use is a company that was originally named "RingtoneMatcher" (it's still the same company, but they're renamed to ToneFuze or something now). Anywho... what they do is try to match the songs on our site with one of their many ringtone providers. So they're probably not the spammer, but I'll bet they'd be really interested in knowing that one of their ringtone providers is a spammer (so they could axe them). Do you remember the name of the site which you entered your phone number on? An easy way to find this out should be to just go to the same song and click the link again. I'm assuming it would send you to the same place? If you could also let us know what song it was that you clicked and what carrier you told them you use (verizon, tmobile, whatever) that would help us chase this thing down.
Thanks again!
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 17:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
* From LyricWiki "The Other Ones"
* http://www.ringtonematcher.com/co/ringtonematcher/02/noc.asp?sid=LWIKros&artist=The_Other_Ones&song=
* Click on Sprint
* http://offer.opendada.com/search-api/jump.php?tmpl=1&partner=27525&campaign=969&artist=The_Other_Ones&title=
* Enter phone # here
* http://offer.opendada.com/search-api/landing.php?partner=27525&campaign=969&artist=The_Other_Ones&title=&tmpl=11
Dan 17:30, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the details! I put in my number and I got a pin sent to me right away though. I'll wait to see if I also get some spam.
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 19:16, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
Weird. I never got the pin. Dan 20:11, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Author credit

Is there a way to add the name of the author or authors of the lyrics to the song page? Can it link to author pages with all of that author's lyrics? 81.187.181.168 10:15, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes. After the closing lyrics tag, create a "Credits" header. Below it, create a bulleted list of those that created the song. Coldplay:Viva La Vida has an example, and the other pages in Category:Gold Songs should all have a Credits sections too, if you'd like to see what others have done.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   11:31, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

Issue with Joe Perry Project song

Hi there. Came up to me this problem: there's the South Station Blues that appears in the Pandora's Box box-set that is not really performed by Aerosmith, it's the original version by the Joe Perry Project. How do I edit the Song template from the JPP track so there would be a link to the Aerosmith album? (I have made a sort of arrangement that I'm not certain that it's correct.) Thanks in advance. Andero 17:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

albumartist parameters are available for all three album parameters in the {{Song}} template. Look at the page now, in edit mode. (The documentation for the Song template lists all available parameters and is a bit more in-depth than the help page.) — 6×9 (Talk) 18:04, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
Superb! Thank you so much. Andero 18:10, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

artist photo doesn't show

hi, i uploaded an artist photo and did use the artist photo template but it doesn't show on the artist page and the file page says there's no link. what do i do wrong and how can i make it work? (new here...) artist is infamis, File:PISTOLIN_LOGO.JPG -- Infamisberlin 12:24, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

The problem was with the filename you were linking to, ".jpg" unfortunately is not equal to ".JPG". See my edit. --WillMak050389 12:41, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

thank you! will keep it in mind. Infamisberlin 18:56, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Colon in song title

I'm uploading the lyrics (instrumental) for album Angular by Opaque. I've successfully uploaded all of them but the last song, which is titled: "Dedication: Für Elise (reprise)". As you can see, it has both a non-english letter (which i see makes it impossible for Sonata, a music player which gets the lyrics off this site, to find the lyrics), and a colon, which seems to break the template. For now i've removed the colon from the page name and left it for display, but here we can see that the title displayed above is wrong. How do I fix this? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Opaque (talkcontribs).

I have moved the song title to Opaque:Dedication: Für Elise (Reprise). The problem you were having was that, the way the system parses the artist name is to go up to the second colon. This is a simple fix: just remove the extra code from the artist parameters in the {{Song}} and {{SongFooter}} templates, and add the missing text to the song parameter in the SongFooter. When you create a new page, the template "guesses" what it can, but sometimes you need to correct it. Hope that helps. --WillMak050389 12:49, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Great, thanks! Opaque 12:59, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Dust In The Wind

This song is listed under The Moody Blues. It is by Kansas. It was never recorded by The Moody Blues.

I didn't know how to fix it without just removing it. How do I move it to the right artists? — The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.108.96.20 (talkcontribs).

I have redirected the Moody Blues page so that it goes to the Kansas page. Thanks for pointing that out! --WillMak050389 19:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!

I can't find my own artist page?

I'm new here and I've made an artist page for a band I couldn't find on here by the name of "The Brobecks", the link to the page is "http://lyricwiki.org/The_Brobecks". However, when I use the 'search lyrics' bar to look for any of the songs I have posted or even look up the artist, it simply says, "Your search - the brobecks - did not match any documents." Yet when I type in the webpage into the html bar, the page pops up just fine!

So question is: Why can't I find the page when I do a search for it, if it works when I type the html into the navigation bar? --— The preceding unsigned comment was added by Maleficus (talkcontribs).

The search utilizes Google and any recently added pages will not show up for about a week (it takes Google a few days to update the cache on pages). If you use Special:Search (run from this website), your pages show up. --WillMak050389 00:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Great! Thanks a lot for the information, much appreciated. -Maleficus

Swear words in songs

I believe that all words should be spelled out in their full form. Someone recently changed all the "fuck"s on a page I am watching to "f***" but I reverted the change. Am I right that the lyrics should be written fully no matter what, even if they are very offensive, such as the N-word?  Talk  Chromana   17:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, am I allowed to delete my own problems that have been resolved (like my "Different album "acts" and a song in parts" topic above)?  Talk  Chromana   18:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

We don't censor lyrics (kind of defeats the point of a lyrics site), so you were right to revert that. Old topics will get archived eventually about time for that, now that you mention it as they might be interesting/useful for future reference, so just leave them. — 6×9 (Talk) 18:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

music player not finding song

I created the pages for the new Girl in a Coma CD (called Trio B.C.). My player (amarok on linux) finds the lyrics to all the songs except the first one (called BB). Across the wire, I see this:

GET /api.php?func=getSong&artist=Girl%20in%20a%20Coma&song=BB&fmt=xml HTTP/1.1\r\n

Here's an example of a working song

GET /api.php?func=getSong&artist=Girl%20in%20a%20Coma&song=Vino&fmt=xml HTTP/1.1\r\n

Any reason why I get a not found on the request for BB? The lyric articles are at Girl In A Coma:BB and Girl In A Coma:Vino.

There is also a redirect from http://lyricwiki.org/Girl_In_A_Coma:BB to http://lyricwiki.org/Girl_In_A_Coma:Bb -- Oliver 01:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I moved the song "Bb" back to "BB", as that seems to be the correct title. Clicking http://lyricwiki.org/api.php?func=getSong&artist=Girl%20in%20a%20Coma&song=BB&fmt=xml shows the lyrics, so either the problem has been fixed or there wasn't one in the first place and the API just took a while to catch up. — 6×9 (Talk) 02:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
yep- confirmed working now. Thanks for responding - Oliver 19:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

About genres...

I'm new here, so I'm sorry if I do something incorrect. I can add a page for a musician, album, and songs, but I can't find a way to add a genre page. No disrespect, but you are missing quite a lot. I want to help with that, but I can't find a way to add that sort of page. -- Deathislife 13:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

We don't have "regular" pages for genres, but categories – see here. Note that some of the genres you're missing might already exist, but with different spelling or capitalisation. In order to avoid multiple categories for the same genre, we try to stick to the following rules: (1) like with artists/albums/songs, capitalise the first letter of each word; (2) other than that, use the same spelling as Wikipedia (e.g. Post-Rock, not Post Rock). — 6×9 (Talk) 15:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you, I'll be checking that out now.-- Deathislife 11:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)