Archive 2008:September - October

Contents 1 8Ball & MJG 2 Icons 3 I'm going to bed but... 4 Implementation 4.1 CSS/Tables 4.2 Song 5 When u got a minute... 6 The problem is that you keep coming up with ideas... 7 Well Deserved! 8 It's about time... 9 Adminship? 10 To my fave Gangsta 11 Welcome! 12 Thanks for the welcome 13 Help:Contents 14 team a 15 Your country needs you ;) 16 Two questions...possibly three... 17 Please Vote 18 Email addr 19 So............. 20 Well deserved! 21 Invite 22 Unimportant

8Ball & MJG Edit

Where did you get the list of songs from?  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 02:15, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I used a past version of [[Eightball & MJG]], before the redirect and batch move. Since all the pages were moved, I figured I'd take the old list and just change the artist name. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 03:01, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Aaah now I understand. Thank you!  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 00:36, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Icons Edit

I obsess over icons and since the Page Rank system is my baby, I thought I'd better think about the icons for "help" verses "unknown" even now, before it's decided. The current icon for "unknown" (a box marked with questions) says to me "who knows what's inside?", a good way to visualize "unknown". My ideas for "help" are as follows:

I think people asking for a life preserver is good, probably better than a plain life preserver itself. The red cross is good too. Thought? --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ § 17:36, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

I always thought your attention to finding good images was commendable. I think I like the regular life preserver and medical cross the most, because the icon won't be that big, and the meaning should jump out. These would fit the existing icons the best. Of these, I like the life preserver a little more, but I'd be happy with both. The life preserver and the top half of the cross need a little darkening, but otherwise, they're good choices. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 22:45, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, I vote life preserver too. --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ § 23:21, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Me too !! (hee hee)  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 00:37, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

P.S. If I'm totally honest, I'm not altogether sure I'm keen on the aqua Aqua, but I'm sure glad someone's now got a more colourful signature than me!! http://www.xs4all.nl/~ernstmul/images/msn60/smile009.gif

I'm going to bed but... Edit

if you wanna pester some people on their talk pages about LyricWiki talk:Community Portal#Auto-Generating Star Checklists, maybe we can achieve cloture and move forward ... if you want to --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 16:35, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Implementation Edit

While the {{Album}} discussion is raging on (I came back from dinner out and there were three more pages!), nobody seems to be discussing {{Song}}. I'm about ready to just change it, but I know I should be more patient. Is there a discussion somewhere I'm missing? If not, let's hit up Kief or Red for an opinion. --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 13:42, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I was going to ask you to put that through but didn't want to rush it either. I don't think the Star and Song edits involve much by way of cosmetic changes. I know the star edit might need some discussion, or just double-checking, but I'd like to do that one first, because Song relies on it. Once Star is put through, then I think I might have to edit Song just a little bit. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 22:05, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

There'd be no harm (other than the server load) in doing the Star changes now, right? Where is your version? --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 23:08, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I haven't done any work on star or song since I posted them on LW:PR. I'm going to do a final check. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 01:46, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Ok, take another look at User:Team a/Sandbox/Star. Could you help me test it? Also, I was thinking that if the second parameter (type) is spelled wrong or something, we should create a category for that, rather than having a link to a non-existent category, which someone else will have to deal with. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 01:57, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm thinking we ought not to worry about that since {{Star}} will only be called from within other templates now. {{ArtistHeader}} removes the last place it was called bare, so I wouldn't think that'll ever come up. --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 07:15, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, sounds good. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 00:10, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

I did it. Keep me abreast of the (any?) debate over your Song version, and I'll do that too. --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 00:41, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Aqua. I suppose this is a bad time for me to realize that stars aren't square, the dimensions are a 15:14.33 ratio (for Black, and each one is a slightly different size). This means that because I scaled both X and Y, I resized the image wrong. Let me get some more work done with this beast, and I'll fix it with parser functions. Anyway, there might be more failsafes I could think of later. For now, it's good: with my album edit or song edit, or an edit to {{ArtistHeader}}, all unranked songs will be ranked black. Then, I can die a good death.
For status, my album edit will probably be nailed down in 2 weeks to a month, based on the new functionality and new ideas people are suggesting, and the song template needs to have another look (with {{Star}} edited) and I'll post it on the {{Song}} page and see if I can get the champs of LW to scrutinize it. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 03:36, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Please bug Red or somebody on their talk page about your Song stuff: it's really good and should be done! As for the square star images, I don't think it matters that much as that resolution. --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 05:18, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a "We'll get to it when we have to edit Star anyway" type of thing. By the way, don't hesitate to comment on my album edit (At Template talk:Album) - I'm probably going to do a big post within the hour. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 05:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm a little behind on all my conversations, especially that one. I'm no fan of saving up your edits for one, big, mega-change. There are so many on-going projects and long-term goals that is makes no sense to store-up many edits. I just want one more set of eyeballs on your {{Song}} changes and I'm gonna do it. --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 05:29, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, okay, I'll look at it. Ignoring your common sense was starting to make my head hurt anyway. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 05:35, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

CSS/Tables Edit

Problem here. How do you truncate something in html or css - I have seen it before, its a class where anything that overflows doesn't show... and how do you wrap text effectively, that would be magic... but what I really want to know is, how do I get the page width (in some css style sheet?) and subtract x pixels? I.e. if I want something to fill the entire width of the screen except 15px. Before you dismiss this post as stupid because it's about a problem that will never occur except through vandalism, please let me know if you can answer my questions! ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 05:45, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

There is a website (A List Apart) that is the Bible for CSS gurus, and they said something the other day that really surprised me. CSS and Standards are cool and everything, but tables are sometimes for effective and way less work. If they say that, it really means something. (I.E., a table with a width of 100%, one column unregulated, the other 15px wide. --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 06:54, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Take a look at every table I've ever made :P I know you always go for css/html over tables, but I'm glad I don't look too foolish for learning all that (even though they don't have wide use in the type of templates we use around the site, so far). Unfortunately, unwrappable text exists - I blame MediaWiki! Actually, I'll probably figure out how to fix it eventually - I'm going to check out the website. What I want to get into more is sortable tables, and collapsible tables, considering that these are just about the only bits of script that can be snuck into a page. I've even seen a collapsible table that collapses into nothing (should be easy to make), so we can always pester new users with them :P What do you think about the template, is it a go? ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb›} 07:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I use those collapsibles and everything on my own wiki. They're really cool. See also wikipedia:Template:ShowHide. --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 07:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll take a look. All your urging to finish the template has gotten me anxious, though. I hope you're looking it over! ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 07:26, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

You haven't touched User:Team a/Sandbox/Star in a while: is that where you're making changes? --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 07:29, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm happy with Star. I thought you were talking about Song. Look at the post below. I'm not planning to make many changes to Song, the major reason I edited it in the first place was for the star and to make the text appear at the top of the page. I don't think it has the potential that Album does. See below (to keep it short) ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 07:35, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Ugh. I'm getting tired and should go to bed before I make a site-wide mistake. I already implemented your Star changes. Reading your mega-post... --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 07:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Song Edit

OK, I think I'm reasonably done, barring words that are over the page width, which won't wrap no matter what. Take a look at User:Team a/Sandbox/Star On Song Page now - I've even included the documentation, so it's a cut and paste job (if it holds up to your scrutiny, and I'll see if I can recruit some more people, unless you wanna just put it though). Note that I didn't include putting the template in any categories - whoever switched over to the documentation system forgot to put them on the doc page. I'll also fix the doc page when the template is put through. I didn't touch much at all except adding the table to the very beginning and end, changing how the final period appears, and adding a 6th featured artist (because I can). This one was probably even less tinkering than my Star edit; it's basically cosmetic. EDIT: One more thing, you're going to need to restrain my enthusiasm about something. I wanted to add categories for the featured artists, i.e. [[Category:Featured/{{{fa2}}}]], so that {{PAGESINCAT:Category Name}} can be used on the artist page to list the number of songs an artist is featured in, and link to a list of them. That's the one thing that needed discussion, and I was really hoping for. To hold me back and get me to shelf it, tell me that we'll do that even more effectively when we get Semantic. All I want for Christmas is Semantic...♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 06:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, looked it over and it passes muster. I can't wait for Semantic where we'll be able to query any page for all artists used on it. --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 07:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

One of the things I'm looking for most is what it could do for artist pages - list tiny icons of the albums, finally arrange the art properly, provide so many statistical or useful links (and I promise to only 150% overdo it). I could really use the simplicity too - I haven't certified a song in a week, and maybe 1-2 weeks before that one. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 07:58, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I may be wrong, but don't you think that current placing of song star attribute in tl:song is slightly illogical? Imo star is a parameter of song page, not the particular song record in particular album, hence it shouldn't have any possibility to have separate different values for the same song page. Current song page structure hasn't any trigger preventing me from setting different star parameters in different song tl's for the same song page (you can try that :)). It may be a source of possible future problems while starring songs, especially for botified starring (needless checking of all tl:song items, additional rules for conlicts resolving etc.). What do you think about that?--Senvaikis ^(talk) 08:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I think the most important thing is to do what can be done without human intervention for right now. Let's save all our mass-edit stuff until we get Semantic and it's 1,000,000 times less effort. Page rank data can be auto-calculated by the website itself, and there will be no star=___. --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 08:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

If I understand what you mean, Senv, you're saying that leaving a space above the first {{Song}} text line suggests that the star is for the whole page, but without that space, it is implied that the star might be for just the first album listed. You do have a point there. However, this still seems like the better play to go with right now, considering that most songs only have one album, and it seems unlikely that anyone who knows the basics about LW:PR would think that the star only indicates the one item. If there are problems, we can easily find them with a bot to manually edit them. Perhaps we should update the help and talk page descriptions to clarify, though.
To respond to your first few points, I think adding the star to {{Song}} is positive because it cuts down template use, which can be distracting when viewing the editable text, and it requires less text for editors(|star=Green instead of {{Star|Green|Song]}, and even then, you should only have to change the parameter value for the star, not add the whole parameter. And, it helps newcomers in that changing a few words has a more logical result, while adding a new template might be counterintuitive. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 08:18, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Sorry if I've missed something (currently haven't time enough to recheck all possible discussions about that), but I still don't understand current policy of songs ranking. Take for example golden song, having two {{Song}} on its page (as usual, second is starless). Result: two stars - golden and black - parades on the page, and song belongs to two categories (black & gold songs) simultaneously? I can't believe it's under design - surely I'm missing something here? cheers,--Senvaikis ^(talk) 12:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Problem is being dealt with, see here Senv (towards the bottom).  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 14:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and let me say once again, I did screw up. This was part of an effort to get all artist/album/song pages to be auto-ranked black, so we could make sure to hit every single one with a bot and change it to green. The generally-agreed upon solution right now is to wait until the discussion on Template talk:Song yields a new version that can deal with a long list of album inclusions. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 21:29, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

No you didn't screw up. Minor hiccup is all.  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 00:48, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Amen! You did not screw up. You helped the site and uncovered a silly idea that had been perpetuated unthinkingly: multiple {{Song}}'s. --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 07:28, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

When u got a minute... Edit

Can you look at the edit war going on on this page and if you know the correct words (whether it's "it" or "you" correct it please?) Timbaland:The Way I Are. If you don't know don't worry, I'll go check song out on YouTube. Thanks!  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 02:49, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Done. Note that the youtube version is different from the album version (another verse, repeat of bridge and chorus). I added links to both audio and video. If anyone tries to edit those parts again, I'll take it up with them. Also, I wonder if there is some welcoming to do with our anonymous editors for that page - registered users are easier to talk and explain things to. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 00:13, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you team a! I have put welcome notes on the pages of the last two unregistered users who edited that page.  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 18:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

The problem is that you keep coming up with ideas...Edit

I've actually been working on my own version of your template that I knicked from you tonight. What I am going to try to do also is remove the Namespace references from the parts that do not effect categories, clean up the code, and come up with some alternative ways of doing some of the stuff that you have already done. I think we will be doing some code consolidation at some point in this progression. But if you want to see what I've got so far (it isn't much yet) it's at User:Kingnee1114lyrics/Sandbox/AlbumMockup because I am unoriginal.
King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 07:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

No problem - I'm happy that anyone would want to tinker with something I made. You should realize that I'm constantly updating mine - I must have done it over thirty times tonight - so that might be a difficulty. Right now, I'm working through a major error in the upper right link, so be advised. Are you planning to change around the formatting? What do you have in mind? EDIT: I hope all the useless formatting tools described in the sandbox don't throw you - they're all going to be removed when I reach an almost-final step. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 07:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

What I've fixed so far is the splits in the title link. Now will say 'Split Studio Album by Artist, Split, Split2 and Split3'. Would you mind if I put in that the official (read: your) version? I would like to say that I have now gotten the namespace references, but I would like to talk about not keeping different template reactions for namespace, or at least as prolific as you have it here, for reasons of simplicity and sustainability. This template existing on userpages makes that make sense now, but when this is released into the wild, the usefulness of having all that extra code, about 100 characters per instance, is outweighed by the idea of ease of maintaining this template. That may or may not be me being a fogey.

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 08:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Oh, no. I do understand those are just tools for figuring out the formatting without having to tinker with the code itself each time. No, I mainly mean just random bug fixes/small formatting bits, and then namespace.

Yes, you can definitely put the split fix that in the main version. About the "type", though, we don't want it to only appear for split releases, so maybe it needs its own field in the bottom text box. I'm going to post about the direction of "type" pretty soon on Template talk:Album, once I've fixed some of the more annoying tiny bugs and the formatting has been all lined up. Feel free to edit the "Demonstration" page too, especially in adding reported bugs, or to fix any of those listed. Because I do a lot of edits, there could be edit conflicts, so you might want to fix things in yours if I'm also in the process of editing. PS, I'm almost done fixing the upper-left link - take a look in 10 minutes. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 08:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

The beauty of my fix is that 'split' shows up separate from the type. It is just a little code before the type 'if split, then say "split" else nothing'. In my demonstrations there were split mixtapes, split singles, and all sorts of wacky things. I will wait until your edits calm down and add in my fix later.

King_Nee1114 (talk page • contributions • deletions) 08:42, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll probably be done in 15 minutes, and I'll be busy studying for an exam tomorrow. Don't worry about my formatting, just add it in the appropriate place and I'll look at the edit history to see. Also, I wanted to say that I agree about trimming down a lot of things, I plan to do this near the end or when lots of new functionality or rearranging won't be happening on a daily basis. Also, to remove a lot of the namespace checks, I've thought about moving every category to the end. That way, the namespaceid box can list the category that a page would have been included in, without actually including it. The only concern is separating what I spent awhile putting together, which is getting almost all the {{#if:{{{PARAMETER|}}}}} checks together in the same place, so a later editor won't think he or she has fixed something, when it has to be done in multiple places. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 08:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, not tonight, but I'm close. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 09:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Well Deserved!Edit

P.S.the next one will be for the number of posts per minute http://www.iconwild.com/smilies/happy/happy-smiley-039.gif.

Thanks, Red! Your encouragement means a lot to me! ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 18:25, 21 November 2008 (UTC) how about words per post? haha

It's about time...Edit

Adminship?Edit

Your work & positive community spirit have been noticed. Would you like to have a few extra bells & whistles to help get the job done? If so, you've got to become an admin. So, how about it?    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   01:34, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I would be honored to be a LyricWiki admin. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 01:47, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Done. I was going to ask you to auto-patrol your edits, but I was looking in my preferences and now that we've upgraded, I'm not sure where you can change that! Hrm.... Anyhow, welcome! If you would like to see what an admin can do, you can go to your preferences and then click on the (User group rights) link.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   01:58, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Kiefer. I did notice the red exclamation marks. I think I can get used to it for now :) ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 02:04, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

To my fave GangstaEdit

Thanks, Red! You know I owe all I know about LW to you and Aqua. I'll still think of you as my admin, even if I'm one too now ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 19:29, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Awwww shucks! You are far too modest. But you know it's people like you and that crazy German geezer that make the time I spend on here so worthwhile!  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 22:40, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

He's German? Lucky me, I asked him to pick me up some beer from the supermarket, and now I know I'll get the good stuff. He was on a plutonium run to build a bomb to blow up my template - you know, just an everyday errand. Seriously, though, you have to be the most helpful person here, and your help is probably the reason I stayed here after the first week or so. It's what made LW a familiar place to me instead of a foreign place. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 22:51, 3 December 2008 (UTC) And Aqua's help is the reason I didn't go crazy or accidentally blow up the site when working on complicated stuff

Welcome! Edit

Rfl - I saw your notes on the above, sure looks like you've been having fun. Anyways I'm done for the day. It's 3.40 am here and I got to be up soon... Nite nite.  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 03:40, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Red. I feel a little better. I still want to shoot/fight {{Welcome/Sandbox}}, though. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb›

Like Kiefer, a template maker I'll never be (rfl), but nevertheless I did have a go at this earlier (in the hopes of resolving it for you) and do you know what I believe the problem is? OK I could be well off the mark, but if the color parameter isn't there it thinks it shouldn't be any color. As such you might need to give it a default color and then present an #if argument that will overide the default color. Only problem there is of course that the background colour is built into the banner template itself. Here, I reckon this would definitely catch people's attention, don't you? (hee hee). (Look at how I did the coding thingy..it's slightly different to yours).

By the way, I saw a comment you made about redirecting, moving pages, etc. in amongst all of this and so I thought I'd have a much needed bash at updating the FAQ page. When I've done I'm thinking I might incorporate it into my Welcome note...  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 15:54, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

The weird thing is that color actually does work, but border doesn't, and they're used exactly the same in {{Welcome/Sandbox}} and {{Banner}}, and I have no idea what the problem is. I got color working fine, but the border part (which only sets the color of the border) always causes the border to disappear when used. If not used, it's fine. I have spent so long working on templates (Take a glance at the insides of the Album edit) but this makes no sense to me, and it's frustrating. Also, an update to that help page would be great, it should definitely be "required reading" for new users. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 00:08, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Finally fixed it. Apparently, you can't always use a parameter to define just part of a style element(like border:1px solid {{{color|blue}}}), you have to do the whole thing. ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 07:49, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome Edit

Thanks! --Geopgeop 00:13, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Help:Contents Edit

Hee hee it got your attention then. http://www.xs4all.nl/~ernstmul/images/msn60/smile009.gif Thanks for fixing layout. It looks much better now I'm sure I'll even get to like the luminescent green...eventually. I am a perfectionist after all..as you must've gathered by now. I also can't abide it when things don't "look" right. It's one of my pet peeves.  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 00:46, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I like the green! It's nice and soothing – just the right thing for a help page really. Basically a more subtle way of saying "DON'T PANIC". Good work! (And I don't think we can trust the aesthetic judgment of someone who prefers the Babushka-look of the old Instrumental template...) -- 6x9 (Talk) 01:05, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Soothing was what I was going for. I would have picked blue like I do everywhere but I didn't want to copy Wikipedia too closely. @Redxx - you don't have to get used to that ugly green. If you pick some colors (different greens? or other colors entirely), I can add them in. BTW, that is kind of a burn... why do you want a banner over lyric tags anyway? ♠team a ‹_talk•ctrb› 07:45, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Like Kiefer, when I arrived here I saw both. I simply got to think that the banner version was better....like the banner part is what actually defined it as being instrumental, more so than than the words. Let's face it, the yellow background is exactly the same as a normal song page. Text on the page is exactly as you'd find it on a normal song page. And as we all know, there are some extremely short "songs". As such without the banner, at a glance it could easily be mistaken for the lyrics of a (short) "song". The only way you stand any chance of persuading me away from the banner is guilt, i.e. by making me consider the time a page takes to load for 6x9 with his trusty old pc (hee hee). But I really hope that a good compromise can be found. The bluey/mauve colour is lovely 6x9. I'm, also not averse to the idea of an appropriate icon...  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 14:58, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

team a Edit

Have a great Christmas and all the very best to you in 2009!
love  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 05:36, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Your country needs you ;) Edit

LyricWiki_talk:Administrators_Portal/Templates#.7B.7BAdditional_Albums.7D.7D  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 13:39, 4 January 2009 (UTC) P.S. I hope your "quietness" is an indication you been resting...or partying ;) P.P.S.S. Happy New Year!

Two questions...possibly three... Edit

1. Category:Albums with cover art If you look at the albums in that category you will see why there needs to be some invisible border round box..clearance. This was what I meant about text running upto and under album art. Looks plain awful doesn't it?
2. How is the new {{Album}} coming along? I thought you had just about finished it? And just as I was thinking I wanted to ask you about that, on the Admin Portal template talk page Will has asked the exact same thing.
3. With no 2 very much in mind I do hope you are Ok? You are awfully quiet atm....  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 02:40, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Please Vote Edit

Dude, are you OK? I miss you. If you're around, would you mind voting on this? --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 00:49, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Email addr Edit

Howdy,
Do you have an email address that I can have? Every now and then there is stuff I need to contact admins about that, for whatever reason (usually legal reasons), I can't do publicly. Please just send me a note to sean [at] the domain name of the site.
Thanks,
-Sean Colombo (talk|contribs) 01:39, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

So............. Edit

How the heck are you??? We have all missed you (as I think you can tell). Hope u is Ok.  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 14:45, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Well deserved! Edit

Missed you, bud. Great work. --Åqüã†ìкí ƒ_Δ^Σ ¶ 23:53, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Invite Edit

• LyricWiki_talk:Administrators_Portal#The_Despised_and_Torturous_LW:PN    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   18:17, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

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