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Sections here had their last post in July, so they belong here.
Just did not want to wait for August to archive them.

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Loops

Hi!
I found an Extension called "Loops". With that the limited number of featured artists and covered songs, etc. could be a problem of the past!

There's another extension with the same funcionality, but another usage (maybe this one is easier to handle): LoopFunctions.--KaputteMenschen 12:57, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Ha! All I had to do was flip a switch and now we have it :D. Being on Wikia has some benefits ^^
-Sean Colombo 21:10, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Unused file?

I don't know why I never asked, but in my continual trials to clear Special:UnusedFiles I've never figured why File:Mandragora Scream - Madhouse.jpg is in there. It has two links (check the file page) and it's had these links for longer than the cache has been updated on the list, so it shouldn't be there. But it is. I'm lost. Any suggestions why this is on the list? It seems to be the only one also. --WillMak050389 00:38, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Might be related to the category thing two topics above, and the what-links-here problem even further up… I suspect that MediaWiki only "sees" explicit links reliably, while those from within a template (especially complex ones) are more hit-and-miss. (The cover parameter on the album page was also prefixed with some odd character, which might have caused the link to break and the art finder to be used instead, which is complex enough. I fixed the link – maybe it will disappear from Unused Files now…) — 6×9 (Talk) 00:49, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
This has been in unused file for months (possibly years?) that I've noticed. If you fixed it, I love you. --WillMak050389 00:51, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
No such luck… still there. You could try putting it on your userpage. *ducks and runs* — 6×9 (Talk) 01:32, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
I put it on my page, we'll see if it changes tomorrow (I don't wanna hafta refresh the special pages again). Now that I look, we may have the same problem with File:The All-American Rejects - The All-American Rejects.jpg, I just added it to their artist page, but it had the album page linking it. --WillMak050389 02:15, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
Can you two please explain this to me. Why are you wanting to delete album covers that seem to be needed, i.e. not duplicated. And why are so many used files in "Unused files" ?? I am seriously confused here... Яєdxx Actions Words 11:32, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
We are trying to make the used files not show up in Unused Files special page. 6×9 was deleting a previous version of that file in order to see if that would help the system recognize that it is actually being used.
As for used files being in Unused Files list, the two that I have linked above seem to be the only used ones that still appear in the list. Some may still appear on the list despite their use because they are being hyperlinked (in order for a file to be "used" it has to be linked using [[File:<<FileName>>.ext]] or [[Image:<<FileName>>.ext]]. Something like File:IMDb small.png is only hyperlinked in the {{FilmFooter}} template). Also, some of the images at the bottom of the list may be used in an {{Album}} template, but because the cache has not been purged on the album page since the image was uploaded, it still appears in the Unused File list.
As for File:Mandragora Scream - Madhouse.jpg and File:The All-American Rejects - The All-American Rejects.jpg, that's what we're trying to figure out. --WillMak050389 15:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks Will. I won't pretend I understand all that ;) All I really wanted to say was that my pretty pictures are in the Unused Files but they are not "unused". They are linked to by way of url. But you know about that anomaly so that doesn't help you any.  Яєdxx Actions Words 20:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, it's frustrating, but it at least tells you when you open up the special page: "Please note that other web sites may link to a file with a direct URL, and so may still be listed here despite being in active use." Those two specific album covers have no business being in their at all. --WillMak050389 21:11, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
Looked at this and at first glance it seems that this SpecialPage is working fine now. Was probably something messed up in that rascally JobQueue.
-Sean Colombo 21:14, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

LyricWiki:Integration

Not priority, but since the above page is linked to in the main Help:Contents page, can you put it on your "To Do" list please. Only I think the section API might need updating and I don't know enough about all that kind of stuff to do it (or I would do it myself). Thanks.  Яєdxx Actions Words 11:06, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

Updated (finally). -Sean Colombo 21:23, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

GracenoteBot

FYI: I see that this bot is marked as a bot, but it's still showing up in the Recent Changes even though I have "Hide bots" turned on. It makes it a little hard to patrol.  :-]    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   17:43, November 6, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, that was annoying. Fixed now. Thanks!
-Sean Colombo 18:18, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
RC spamming problem solved. But how about Orphaned Pages? --Senvaikis (talk) 19:36, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
Man, he's all about spamming our SpecialPages. I'm thinking we should prob. write a bot to create Gracenote:<Artist> pages. Kind of like what Janitor did, but it'd have to have a special case since Gracenote isn't an artist but rather a namespace. Any takers? If not, I'll probably be able to get to it next week (it could be annoying to have SP:OP broken until then tho).
-Sean Colombo 22:02, November 6, 2009 (UTC)
Apropos "Gracenote", is Special:Random intended to lead to Gracenote pages, too? - Chris 21:23, November 7, 2009 (UTC)
I'd rather it didn't. Not sure how to fix that at the moment though. We have a RandomInCategory feature, maybe that could be updated to allow a blacklist of namespaces?
-Sean Colombo 21:36, July 23, 2010 (UTC)
As an update, GracenoteBot does create artist pages now and therefore shouldn't be spamming Special:LonelyPages. However, there are a bunch of Gracenote pages still showing up on that list that shouldn't be. Presumably this is because the job-queue is behind... but strangely, the queue is catching up quite a bit and there are still a bunch of false-positives on that list. After the job-queue is solved, we're going to be looking back into whether Special:LonelyPages is broken or what the deal is.
-Sean Colombo 21:36, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

iTunes linkmaker

It seems that the output format produced by the linkmaker has changed. That alone wouldn't be too bad, we'd just have to update the documentation, but apparently not all IDs produce working links with our templates anymore. Senv provided two artist examples here, and I couldn't get a working link for these two albums – linkmaker produces "…/id29468538?i=29468502&uo=6…" but neither "id29468538" nor "id=29468538" work in the template. Can you try to figure out whether we need to update our templates? — 6×9 (Talk) 20:57, November 10, 2009 (UTC)

One more sample, - just to show that effect isn't page title-specific: Robert John. --Senvaikis (talk) 21:46, November 10, 2009 (UTC)
Don't know how it may help to understand what's going on, but I found at least one feature, common for all artists with invalid iT: all their releases are VA compilations. Strange xml page, mentioned in my post to 6, contains working iTunes link them; example for Robert John:
<Document disableHistory="true" disableNavigation="true">
 <Protocol>
  <plist version="1.0">
   <dict>
    <key>pings</key>
    <array>
    </array>
    <key>jingleDocType</key>
    <string/>
    <key>jingleAction</key>
    <string/>
    <key>action</key>
    <dict>
     <key>kind</key>
     <string>Goto</string>
     <key>url</key>
     <string>
      http://ax.search.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearch?artistTerm=Robert+John
     </string>
    </dict>
   </dict>
  </plist>
 </Protocol>
</Document>
Once more: Something should be done with iTunes; current instructions in our help are fallacious now. Our iT template should be changed to be compatible with the new ITLM format. --Senvaikis (talk) 22:50, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
Ticket:
RT #33109
(higher priority than most others) -Sean Colombo 01:46, December 11, 2009 (UTC)
To circle back, we fixed the iTunes template back in December, this should work now. -Sean Colombo 21:43, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Sign-in Issue (minor problem)

When a person signs in after signing out, the return-to location is the sign-out page, which means that signing in is impossible from that page. It's a minor issue, but it would probably be helpful to be directed to the Main Page.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   04:16, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Ah, good point. I rewrote the login system for Wikia earlier this year and now it does exactly what you recommended. Thanks! :)
-Sean Colombo 21:46, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Deluge

UncategorizedPages is currently swamped with Gracenote artist pages, even though they're properly categorized… — 6×9 (Talk) 11:34, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

So freaking weird. We're still looking at this (
RT #25863
), but it's kinda baffling. The UncategorizedPages phenomenon is still the case two weeks after you left this message, so it's safe to say that it wasn't just a delay in updating but that the system is just plain confused.
-Sean Colombo 21:04, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
It looks fine now. Not sure what was wrong or how it got fixed. Could have been the jobqueue? (a lagged jobqueue is to blame for all suffering in the world) -Sean Colombo 21:50, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Happy Birthday!

Hey Sean, I just wanted to say happy birthday, old man!    RainbowDragon    talk    contribs   19:53, April 17, 2010 (UTC)

I'm way late in responding, but I saw this on my birthday & it made me happy :D Thanks! -Sean Colombo 21:51, July 23, 2010 (UTC)

Server timestamps

Hi, I was wondering, is there any reason I saw my last (today's) edit being labeled as "sscout made an edit on January 2, 2010" on a Ke$ha song? btw, sup? -- --  Sscout    talk    contribs       20:45, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

p.s. do you know how #IF's work here? I don't want to copy all my .signature stuff again everytime I join a wiki on wikia
p.s. like 10 mins ago your user page was just a twitter feed (yours) are you testing on your own page instead of a sandbox?
First issues: caching, the name is replaced, to see the new time, reload the page
Second issue: do you mean {{#if:<expr>|<then wiki markup>|<else wiki markup (optional)>}}?
Third issue: tends to happen on pages with twitter-apps, happens for the CP (not the talk page) sometimes, too. However his page looks kinda broken with that hash from his HTMLet everywhere. Strange enought that if you insert <htmlet>seantodo</htmlet> on your page it displays correctly. I guess I'll be cleaning up his page code anyway soon, I mean, I'm gladly taking care of his discussion, so why not the user page, too? ^^ - Chris 00:21, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
Error parsing XML Feed: Tag mismatch: expecting `twitter:place/' got `item' on his twitter feed ^.^!
can you elaborate on the wiki markup needed to SUBST my .signature on other wikia wikis? ty
I'll go check that caching thing.
Yes! I see now what you meant.

On another issue, is there a reason I can't copy from lyrics anymore? I thought it was just the official gracenote ones that had that disabled? I just checked on IE 8 too, no go, since I like to take my lyrics with me on a USB to places without Internet, you can see how I have a personal stake on this ^.^º -- --  Sscout    talk    contribs       20:03, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

Selecting lyrics + right-click menu have been disabled as part of the licensing agreement with GN. Selecting still works outside the lyric box, so you could (for example) start selecting right before and stop right below it, and CTRL+C does its usual job of copying whatever is selected to the clipboard :-) I feel so rebellious, mentioning this on Sean's talk page of all places! There's also another workaround involving disabling JavaScript and a custom stylesheet, but Sean knows my email address and might find out where I live… — 6×9 (Talk) 20:25, July 29, 2010 (UTC)
@Six: [*whistle*] - Chris 21:50, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

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