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Artist naming - collaborations Edit


what is the right way to add a collaboration between two musicians or bands into the wiki? E.g. I'm adding Rukkanor at the moment and he did some collaborative work with Cold Fusion, so one would be Cold Fusion & Rukkanor with the CD Silk Road.

Thanks! Neppomuk

You can create song, album and artist page(s) like you normally would – just replace the {{ArtistHeader}} template with a {{Collaboration}} template. See Category:Artist Collaborations for some examples. — 6×9 (Talk) 13:34, January 6, 2014 (UTC)

Hi 6x9,

OK, I thought there might be a way to show the release on both artists page in the natural list, not as a separate "collaboration" link. But then I continue as you described.

Thanks again, Neppomuk

Artist/Song naming - Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese Edit

For example, to retrieve the lyric of陳奕迅_(Eason_Chan):傷信

The API call is陳奕迅_(Eason_Chan)&song=傷信 or陳奕迅&song=傷信

But using Simplified Chinese won't do陈奕迅&song=伤信

Do I need to make a Simplified Chinese version for every page, or is there a better way? Thank you. Cplanner (talk) 10:30, January 19, 2014 (UTC)

I have these two pages: 陈奕迅 (Eason Chan):兄妹 and 陈奕迅 (Eason Chan):绵绵
Why [1] works, while [2] fail? -- Cplanner (talk) 16:28, January 25, 2014 (UTC)
Probably because there's a redirect at 陈奕迅:兄妹, but not at 陈奕迅:绵绵. Both should work, because 陈奕迅 redirects to 陈奕迅 (Eason Chan) and therefore they should be handled by implied redirects, but those apparently still only handle ascii chars… (That bug is ancient, I thought it was fixed years ago.)
Not sure who's maintaining the API now, but you can ask Sean. — 6×9 (Talk) 17:24, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Should verses be labeled with who is singing? Edit

Particularly on hip hop songs, I often miss labeling as to who is singing (or rapping) each verse. Is there a policy as to whether lyrics on this site should include that kind of info? Snuslyrikk (talk) 14:11, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

See Help:Contents/Editing/Formatting/Songs#Lyrics, you can put the singer/rapper/speaker/oralnoiseemitter in bold above the lyrics section. — 6×9 (Talk) 17:27, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Snuslyrikk (talk) 10:44, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

What to do when not understanding parts of lyrics Edit

Hey, I'm new to working on lyric pages here. Most of the work I do is transcribing lyrics for songs made around 1910-1930 which means I often run into songs where parts of the lyrics are hard to figure out. After half an hour of searching I'm just gonna ask here.

I was wondering if anyone knew what the policy is for transcribing those parts into lyrics. Is there some kind of placeholder to put so that other people can come in later and fill in what's not there?

What am I supposed to put when I don't know what is being said in part of the song?

Question marks, underscores – doesn't really matter as long as it's clear they're placeholders. And you can put {{partial}} above the lyrics to flag them as incomplete. — 6×9 (Talk) 17:46, February 14, 2014 (UTC)

Lyrics replaced by licensing message Edit


I edited the page at A Perfect Circle:When The Levee Breaks to add an album + switch to bronze star, but after I saved the page, the lyrics disappeared and were replaced by a message about not being licensed to display these lyrics.

Before I edited the page, it did not display any message like this, and had the full lyrics for the song. Looking at the page history, the page was previously Gracenote protected, but was taken off the list in 2012. Did I do something wrong here?

Thanks, 13:49, March 6, 2014 (UTC)

Nothing you did wrong – looks like a bug with the new licensing system. Sean has been notified. — 6×9 (Talk) 17:36, March 6, 2014 (UTC)
Alright, thanks for the reply! 04:31, March 7, 2014 (UTC)

Artist with multiple correct spellings?Edit

What's the policy or procedure for an artist with multiple correct spellings? For example, in his earlier work, the artist name was spelled "Del Tha Funkee Homosapien" on the album covers, but was later changed to the spelling "Del The Funky Homosapien." Should all of the songs/albums be under a single name? Or should the albums/songs match the covers and link the two artist spellings somehow? --Zobatch (talk) 16:37, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

All songs and albums should be listed on one artist page. So which name do we go with? I went ahead and looked at all the external links for this artist, and all of them except for Discogs use "Del The Funky Homosapien." I would say that we should use "Del The Funky Homosapien," as well. I noticed that "Del The Funky Homosapien" redirects to "Del Tha Funkee Homosapien." The other admins and I can fix this.  :) --Arwen4CJ Talk 15:55, April 3, 2014 (UTC)

Multiple vocalists singing alternating lines Edit

I understand that if one vocalist sings a verse, it should be noted in bold above the verse. But what is the standard when two or more vocalists sing in a single verse, alternating between who is singing each line?

For reference, me and OneTwoThreeFall have been debating on the All Time Low:A Love Like War page. Help is greatly appreciated. Patzilla777 (talk) 20:20, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

Imho the whole noting vocalists within lyrics tags is not necessary at all, unless if not noted you wouldn't get the song at all. This is what the refs say too. (Just to be clear: It is not mandatory to note Vocalists!)      Lichtweber       talk    service   21:00, May 16, 2014 (UTC)
That is what I thought too, that it wasn't needed for most songs, however the help page isn't too clear. - OneTwoThreeFall ( T / C ) 21:14, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

Censorship? Edit

E.g. at Three 6 Mafia:Bin Laden Weed it reads "f**k" while "fuck" is said/sung in the rap song. So why is it censored? Is there some rule to censor "bad words"? If so, which words are considered "bad"?
Also, if there is such a censorship rule, then it should be changed, 'cause censorship leads to several problems:

  • one can still guess that it means "fuck" in this case; in other cases one maybe can't guess what it's said/sung
  • one can't translate it with tools like google translator (this counts for non-native English speakers and for non-English texts)
  • "f**k" could be interepreted as it's "fuck" but with some pip sound over it. Thus "f**k" is misleading as no pip sound is used.

-Quark3021 (talk) 11:36, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

We have a rule about censoring: don't.
Some pages have censored lyrics anyway, usually for one of three reasons: (1) they were created like that, and no one fixed it above example falls in this category; (2) someone censored them, and no one noticed and reverted it; or (3) they are actually bleeped out in the song. In the last case, it's probably a good idea to make it clear, e.g. by using "f*BLEEP*ed" instead of "f**ked" or something. — 6×9 (Talk) 12:11, June 1, 2014 (UTC)
Hi Quark. We don't censor here at LW, so you may go ahead and fix those lyrics. An while you're at it, you can also remove notations like "(Chorus)" and vocalists names within the lyrics tags. Our policy states that "lyrics should always be transcribed as sung. That includes "bad words" and excludes information not being part of the actual lyrics. Happy editing      Lichtweber       talk    service   12:15, June 1, 2014 (UTC)

Pages starting with 'Songs:' do not load? Edit

Do the pages listed here not load at all for anyone else, or is it just me? - OneTwoThreeFall ( T / C ) 11:55, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

Actually, a few of the album pages do seem to load, but none of the songs do. - OneTwoThreeFall ( T / C ) 12:05, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

They still don't work? ES brought this up a year ago; we decided to wait for a bit to see if the problem would go away by itself – and then utterly forgot about it… Guess it's high time to contact the Wikia staff. — 6×9 (Talk) 18:29, June 21, 2014 (UTC)

Generate album code from musicbrainz Edit


I wonder if there is a way to generate the code for an album from Musicbrainz, so that I would just have to copy paste the code here.

Thanks, — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Obcd (talkcontribs), 08:56, 22 June 2014‎.

You can use Special:Wikify for that. Works for other sources as well! — 6×9 (Talk) 09:14, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! However, I don't get how it works for musicbrainz albums. Is there some kind of howto?User:obcd
A little wikify how-to
1. Insert artist, album, release year
2. Copy raw tracklist from musicbrainz page
3. Paste in "raw discography" field
4. check "musicbrainz" option
5. Hit "wikify"
Cheers      Lichtweber       talk    service   12:51, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
Please give more detail for step 2. What do you mean by the "raw tracklist"? Monxton (talk) 16:18, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

A question about line lengthsEdit

I've noticed on a few song pages, even on gold ranked ones, that the length of the lines are quite long. For example, the Nickelback:Lullaby page has lines so long, the YouTube video cuts them off and forces them on to the next line. Wouldn't it be more ideal to shorten these lines to avoid this, as it will look cleaner and less cluttered, such as when a singer pauses during the line. Patzilla777 (talk) 16:27, July 30, 2014 (UTC)

What's the rule to enter a re-release with 5 additional songsEdit

As a new user, this operation is a bit too tricky for me. I want to add the re-release of James Blunt's Moon Landing album, the Apollo Edition, in which there are 5 new songs. Also, I need to move the song "Breathe" from "other songs" to this re-release. Moon Landing was released in 2013, but the Apollo Edition is in 2014. Probably an easy thing for the geeks around here, but not for me. Thanks! --Jbfan132 (talk) 13:13, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

You can use the {{OL}} template for that purpose. As an example please have a look at Siouxsie And The Banshees:Tinderbox (1986)      Lichtweber       talk    service   14:02, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

help: renaming Edit

Hi! Can anyone rename Ex-Votos: Subtilizas Porno-Populares to Ex-Votos: Subtilezas Porno-Populares (2nd 'i' to 'e'). I just created it and looks like I am too 'young' and haven't grown my super-powers yet! :-) Tks. Dindor Correseca (talk) 16:22, December 13, 2014 (UTC)

Done. with the caveat that I removed the space after the colon, so Ex-Votos:Subtilezas Porno-Populares cheers ES (talk) 16:31, December 13, 2014 (UTC)
Thank you! (x2) - Dindor Correseca (talk) 16:39, December 13, 2014 (UTC)

Question about page duplicate Edit

Hello, I'm new to this wiki and when I was browsing LyricWikia I found a duplicate page: Out Kast:Hey Ya! and OutKast:Hey Ya! of which the second one is the good one. Is it allowed to make a redirect or should the page be deleted? Kind regards, Coldbolt

Almost always redirect. Hardly ever delete. ty, ES (talk) 19:30, December 13, 2014 (UTC)
See also LyricWiki:Deletion. — 6×9 (Talk) 21:07, December 13, 2014 (UTC)

Credits to Copyright Holders? Edit

How to add credits also to Copyright Holders? (Editors, Publishers etc). Often they ask to be mentioned in credits when a Cover is released. On the CreditBox I don't see their field(s). And when I tried to add them into the Trivia or the notes, it was immeddiately removed. --TormyVanCool (talk) 22:14, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

Try the custom header cell; use the pipes |header1= and |text1= --Cubs Fan2007 (Talk to me) 22:19, December 16, 2014 (UTC)
It's what I did in the afternoon, but it was removed --TormyVanCool (talk) 22:29, December 16, 2014 (UTC)

Artwork for Singles? Edit

I noticed that you accept artworks for Albums, but when there is a Single, you remove it. Normally, even a single, has a related artwork, since it's a Cover (look at iTunes, Spotify, Amazon et). How can I add it to each single, without braking your Policies? --TormyVanCool (talk) 09:00, December 17, 2014 (UTC)

On LW, the point of albums is to make songs easier to find by grouping them together instead of having just one huge alphabetical list. Groupings of one song each whatever happened to B-sides? are pointless, so should be avoided. We are not a discography site. — 6×9 (Talk) 18:20, December 17, 2014 (UTC)
I no wanted to mean you are a discography site, but because each album has a picture, I thought that also the single track can have one, because on iTunes so is. And I was wondering if it was possible to add the pictures also for each track (continuity issue). Hence my question. --TormyVanCool (talk) 21:03, December 17, 2014 (UTC)
Please! One song begets one single release page which begets one artwork page. Redundant and unnecessary and creates more weeding work for admins. Hopefully when a whole album is released, then an album page and art will be justifiable. The artist page has links to external sites including itunes for a reason.... --ES (talk) 21:17, December 17, 2014 (UTC) even Madonna's singles are redundant here
Ok fine ;)--TormyVanCool (talk) 21:33, December 17, 2014 (UTC)

Capitalisation of words preceded by abbreviated letter in French Edit

Regardless of the current debate about capitalization, I would like to know what is LyricWikia's policy on capitalisation of words following an abbreviated article, especially in French. I also invite the admins to complete the "Page Names" documentation accordingly. Some examples are:

Joseph d'Anvers or Joseph D'Anvers ? (d' stands for de, meaning "of" or "from")

Le Temps De l'Amour or Le Temps De L'Amour ? (l' stands for le, meaning "the")

Tx. Jmmelko (talk) 14:48, January 5, 2015 (UTC)

A contraction is considered a word, so it should be "D'Anvers" and "L'Amour". — 6×9 (Talk) 08:23, January 6, 2015 (UTC)

Repitition Edit

From this page [] it says "The lyrics should always be transcribed as sung and reflect what is sung on the recording -- including repeating any even if these differ from the "official" lyrics published in the liner notes or elsewhere ... Repeated lines, stanzas, refrains, etc. should be included in full, rather than using notations such as "repeat", "4x", or "chorus". It is also not necessary to add notations such as "instrumental break."

- Can someone please explain to me why this is a rule?

- What's the purpose of having repeating lines?

- Listeners are intelligent enough to know what someone is singing if the line is written down once. We don't need explicit explanation for repeating lines we've already heard and understood. It's clunky, makes the transcribing process longer and annoying, and is not necessary for understanding. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cblupo (talkcontribs), 20:07, January 17, 2015 (UTC).

Short & sweet answer: We have lyrics in over a hundred languages, do you know what chorus, refrain, bridge, hook, coda etc, is in every language? Didn't think so  ;)
The simplest possible instruction is to transcribe as sung, everybody knows cut & paste. --ES (talk) 06:48, January 18, 2015 (UTC) I paid for a full song, I want the full lyrics!

Letter "i" changed in Capital letter "l" when Bold?Edit

It's something I noticed the first time yesterday, while I created the page AZEB Guys. When the write is Bold, the letter "i" is shown as "l". The "Belgium" is spelled "BelgIum", "Pieter" is spelled "PIeter", "Neirynck" is spelled "NeIrynck", "Vandepapeliere" is spelled "VandepapelIere" etc ... but "India" is spelled correctly ...

Checked in three browsers, with both monobook and wikia skins, and "i" appeared as "i", bold or not. Might be your browser, font, or resolution… Does the effect disappear when you zoom in? — 6×9 (Talk) 13:48, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
You're right, it's the zoom ... but I go the issue only in the words I listed but not with the words "India Dichtbij"--TormyVanCool (talk) 14:33, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

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