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[edit] Swear words in songs

I believe that all words should be spelled out in their full form. Someone recently changed all the "fuck"s on a page I am watching to "f***" but I reverted the change. Am I right that the lyrics should be written fully no matter what, even if they are very offensive, such as the N-word?  Talk  Chromana   17:57, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Also, am I allowed to delete my own problems that have been resolved (like my "Different album "acts" and a song in parts" topic above)?  Talk  Chromana   18:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

We don't censor lyrics (kind of defeats the point of a lyrics site), so you were right to revert that. Old topics will get archived eventually about time for that, now that you mention it as they might be interesting/useful for future reference, so just leave them. — 6×9 (Talk) 18:13, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] music player not finding song

I created the pages for the new Girl in a Coma CD (called Trio B.C.)

My player (amarok on linux) finds the lyrics to all the songs except the first one (called BB)

Across the wire, I see this:

GET /api.php?func=getSong&artist=Girl%20in%20a%20Coma&song=BB&fmt=xml HTTP/1.1\r\n

Here's an example of a working song

GET /api.php?func=getSong&artist=Girl%20in%20a%20Coma&song=Vino&fmt=xml HTTP/1.1\r\n

Any reason why I get a not found on the request for BB?

The lyric articles are at http://lyricwiki.org/Girl_In_A_Coma:BB and http://lyricwiki.org/Girl_In_A_Coma:Vino

There is also a redirect from http://lyricwiki.org/Girl_In_A_Coma:BB to http://lyricwiki.org/Girl_In_A_Coma:Bb

Oliver 01:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

I moved the song "Bb" back to "BB", as that seems to be the correct title. Clicking http://lyricwiki.org/api.php?func=getSong&artist=Girl%20in%20a%20Coma&song=BB&fmt=xml shows the lyrics, so either the problem has been fixed or there wasn't one in the first place and the API just took a while to catch up. — 6×9 (Talk) 02:50, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

yep- confirmed working now. Thanks for responding - Oliver 19:51, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] About genres...

I'm new here, so I'm sorry if I do something incorrect. I can add a page for a musician, album, and songs, but I can't find a way to add a genre page. No disrespect, but you are missing quite a lot. I want to help with that, but I can't find a way to add that sort of page.

Deathislife 13:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

We don't have "regular" pages for genres, but categories – see here. Note that some of the genres you're missing might already exist, but with different spelling or capitalisation. In order to avoid multiple categories for the same genre, we try to stick to the following rules: (1) like with artists/albums/songs, capitalise the first letter of each word; (2) other than that, use the same spelling as Wikipedia (e.g. Post-Rock, not Post Rock). — 6×9 (Talk) 15:26, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, I'll be checking that out now.

Deathislife 11:50, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

[edit] remove "Album by various artists."

Hi i create a page the for album "A Turtle's Dream" by Abbey Lincoln. And i don't arrive to change the line "Album by various artists" for "Album by Abbey Lincoln". I tried several times from crash. And nothing change. Please could you tell me where i make it wrong anf help to correct this problem.

regards Ikiphoenix 16:08, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, for the inconvenient, i find the pb. I didn't follow the policy rules for the page name. sorry for that. Now i have and another pb, how i can delete the page i created previously (http://lyricwiki.org/A_Turtle%27s_Dream_(1994)).

regards

Ikiphoenix 16:44, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] translated songs

Please see this song. Should translations be kept? The artist never sang it in Croatian! Someone marked it for deletion but someone else reverted it. Should we only have the songs as they were sung?  Talk  Chromana   11:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

The page should be kept, definitely. We also have a lot of translations of non-English songs into English – it would be unfair not to allow the reverse! (There was a lengthy discussion on the C.P. recently, but most of it revolved around the colour of the template…) — 6×9 (Talk) 21:18, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

I've also seen a translation on the same page as the actual song. Is a separate page for the translation more desirable?  Talk  Chromana   22:14, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Though I see that the help page still shows the old format (side-by-side on same page) and needs to be updated. You reading this, Red? The problem with keeping translations on the same page is that, if there are several, the page could get pretty large and cumbersome. — 6×9 (Talk) 22:38, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, the multiple language help page only talks about linking the translations when they were actually released by the artist. It says nothing about translations just for the interest of the people who speak it. Perhaps a badge or note should be made on such pages stating that the song was never actually released in that language. This is getting complicated :-S  Talk  Chromana   22:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Indeed :-) That's why we decided to remodel the whole thing:

1. Songs released in several languages:
   • old format – append "/language-code" to pagename for other languages
   • new format – use actual song title if different from original; if identical, append " (Language)"
2. Songs translated by users:
   • old format – put on same page in a column next to original lyrics (obviously this only works for one translation)
   • new format – put on a new page with "/language-code" appended to original pagename

I hope that made it a bit clearer! — 6×9 (Talk) 00:08, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect Hell with Emmylou Harris Pancho & Lefty

I seem to have gotten into redirect hell with Emmylou Harris's version of Pancho & Lefty.

The correct tile is Pancho & Lefty but this seems to be a redirect to "Pancho and Lefty" which is incorrect.

Another variant is "Poncho and Lefty" which is also incorrect.

If someone could 1) make sure that Poncho and Lefty, Poncho & Lefty, Pancho and Lefty would all redirect to "Pancho & Lefty" and 2) provide me with an editable page for the correct title "Pancho & Lefty" I will make sure the lyrics are updated.

Thanks,

Steve 16:05, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

The best you can do in these cases is to copy the content from Wrong Page over to Correct Page (replacing the redirect) and then turn Wrong Page into a redirect. (You can get back from the target page to the redirect page by clicking the "(Redirected from …)" link below the title bar.) — 6×9 (Talk) 22:47, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Great - thanks! Could this be added to the FAQ? Steve 17:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Added. Fourth topic from the top. Make sure to check it out again in a few days, after Redxx is done with rewriting it several times :-) — 6×9 (Talk) 18:54, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Moving Feature

Are there regulations such as how long an account has to be created (or "alive"), or how many edits an account has to have before the move feature becomes available on pages because I don't see it on pages yet. Thanks! --Rockme2 22:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Due to the high amount of vandalism attempts on this site, especially with move vandalisms (for example, see Special:Contributions/Coolusername), users have to be auto-confirmed before they can move pages. The qualifications for this level are not public, though, in order to ensure that accounts are not created for the purpose of doing the minimum to become auto-confirmed. Just keep adding useful edits and you'll eventually get it. --WillMak050389 00:03, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Alrighty, thanks for that information! --Rockme2 01:06, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Removing e-mail from history

Hello, I would like some sysadmin with the proper privileges to delete earlier revisions of my talk page where my e-mail is visible. The revisions I'm talking about are everyone except the current one, dated a couple of minutes ago. I appreciate any help with this matter, I'm not a frequent visitor but hopefully this will get through anyway. Regards Notwist 22:57, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

It's always good to remember that on a wiki, everything is recorded for all time. However, I have deleted your User page (which was the page with the e-mail), and have recreated it. This starts a new page history. The old page history is now only viewable by admins. Hope this helps.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   03:42, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Alan Parsons Blue Blue Sky issues

"Blue Blue Sky" appears (accurately) as both the first and last track on the album On Air, with (also accurately) additional lyrics in the second version.

Where I'm having a problem is in the track titles. On the album there is actually no difference in the titles, and automated gizmos (Gimme Some Tune, Get Lyrical, etc.) are not finding the lyrics as "Blue Blue Sky (Part 1)" and "Blue Blue Sky (Part 2)" because of this. I'm not sure what effect making both titles the same would have though, in terms of both machine and human confusion. Please go gentle on me, I'm new here... ;-) ...can someone more experienced come up with a useful solution, or is this one of those things where reality just can't be fit neatly into the data boxes? Thanks in advance! — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lunalass (talk • contribs), 03:12, 25 August 2009.

Hi Lunalass,

Yes I'm afraid so, this is one of those situations that doesn't fit neatly into a box. Like Wikipedia, if a page on LyricWiki would otherwise have the same name, a disambiguation phrase must be added to the end. In this case it has been decided to be (Part 1) and (Part 2). I have however added some templates to help resolve any confusion over this. See Alan Parsons:Blue Blue Sky.  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 10:06, 25 August 2009 (UTC) P.S: Please sign your posts by placing ~~~~ at the end of your posts.

[edit] Okay, Confused, confused, confused

We want to be responsible for watching over the Wedlock page, which is the band from Chapel Hill,US. "Black Sundress" is the name of their latest single, but the link is in red. I can't even seem to find where to print the lyrics anywhere. Also, they have a new release, entitled "Continuity." We have the photo for it, and etc, but where do you begin?

It seems so simple, but the formatting is a little confusing.

Black Sundress I like smokey, can i second that emotion? You're a Pisces, and I'm drowning in your ocean I'm wasting all my time in your office complex When i really want to see you in that black sundress May Marie don't misunderstand me Your eyes like to tease saying "you can't have me." Hey, Marie, won't you understand me I really want a piece of your psycho-candy. You've been running, through my imagination Like a movie, and i want to be your agent We can talk all day, about my Electra complex But i really want to see you lose that black sundress May Marie, don't misunderstand me I know it's not for free, your psycho-candy. Hey, Marie, i don't mean to be demanding I'm aching for a piece of your psycho-candy.> A figure so divine, with a halo that glows A wire from Greta told me all i need to know Shivers down my spine, i wanna paint your toes I'm twisted inside out, what more do you need to know? It's a tangle, of intricate emotion You're an angel But you give me evil notions I've wasted every dime, i guess I'm just too complex Do you really want to see me in that black sundress? May, Marie, this is not the way i planned it I'm aching for a piece of your psycho-candy Hey Marie, i won't take it for granted If i could have a piece of your psycho-candy...

[1] 2009

Anytime you want to add lyrics to a song that has a red link, just click on the link. A page should open up where you can add the lyrics (between the <lyric> tags.) All the required templates are there for you, just fill out whatever information you can.

Help:Contents/Getting Started/Creating A New Page can help you further.

As for uploading the picture, see Help:Contents/Uploading Content/Album Covers for info. If you still have questions after looking at those pages, I or someone else will be around.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   02:36, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Invalid tags and interwiki links

When I went to edit Anime:Gundam SEED, I was shown these error messages:

• Invalid tag extension name: noinclude
• Invalid tag extension name: includeonly

But as mentioned below, the tags seems to work.

Also since the anime songboxes are also included on the song pages, I checked T.M.Revolution:Invoke and found a different error:

• {{:Anime:Gundam SEED}} is included correctly when you are previewing the page (the noincludes are working at least since the Wikipedia box isn't shown).
• But you get the error [Template fetch failed for http://en.anime.wikia.com/wiki/Gundam_SEED?action=render] on the normal page.

The include link seems to be interpreted as an interwiki link. --LYRIC-Pauline 11:08, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Looks like we can't have two noinclude blocks next to each other on a page – fortunately it's not necessary anyway, since they can be merged into one block. (Two blocks in different parts of a page still appear to work.)

Interwiki links have been disabled, because they messed things up for many artists; you probably saw an old cached version of the page, because now it's included correctly. — 6×9 (Talk) 11:30, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

The solution was that simple? The error messages made it seem much worse.

I checked the song page and the template error is gone, but the code in the includeonly tags are not included. The song box should be collapsed (on the song page) because of how much space it takes, but there isn't even an option to collapse it. It could be another caching issue, so it might solve itself. --LYRIC-Pauline 11:57, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure you have scripting enabled in your browser? Because what you describe is what I see when I turn it off; otherwise the box is collapsed with a "[show]" link to the right. (I doubt it's the includeonly tags, because they do their thing before the browser even sees the page.) — 6×9 (Talk) 12:04, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

I found the problem. It was not my browser, but the default skin used for this wiki. The MonoBook skin (Wikipedia), for example, have the javascript code for collapsable boxes, but not Monaco Sapphire (the default skin). I guess you are using a skin that have the needed code. --LYRIC-Pauline 13:54, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Yep, first thing I did right after the move was switch back to monobook :-) Maybe the relevant code should be moved from monobook.js to common.js, but I'll leave that to someone who's familiar with javascript… — 6×9 (Talk) 14:18, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Migration problem?

I can't log into my old account, which means all the songs I contributed are no longer on any "watchlist" and I can't possibly remember them all and go re-add them. Am I screwed? 99.244.225.199 19:23, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

My apologies for the confusion. During the move to Wikia, many of the account names were changed. This was due to Wikia having global User accounts. That means that the name that is used on LyricWiki is the same as on Lostpedia, Wookieepedia, and all of the other Wikia family of wikis. If a User name was already used in the Wikia world of wikis, then the LyricWiki User name was changed out of necessity. Sometimes, "LYRIC-" was just added to the front of the name. (In my case, "Kiefer" became "LYRIC-Kiefer".) Often, however, the name was completely changed (I'm not sure why) and "LYRIC-" and added to the front. So your name could have changed to "LYRIC-Arapaho", "LYRIC-Syzygy", etc. You can do a little detective work to discover what your User name was changed to during the site migration, however. Look at the history of a page that you remember editing, and compare changes until you find an edit that you remember making. Then try to sign-in under that User name. If you would like this new name changed (and most do), then add your requested name change to the list at User talk:KyleH/renames. If you have any other problems or questions, please let me know.    Kiefer    talk    contribs    admin   22:51, September 17, 2009 (UTC)

My old contributions are for some reason credited to LYRIC-Toudidel. However, the contributions listing also has contributions that I didn't make. I can't log in as LYRIC-Toudidel so there's something wrong. Onlycrazy! 10:13, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

As Kiefer has said above, add your name to this list. Your contributions will get sorted along with your username.  ♫_♫Яєd_{xx ♪}♫♪_♫♪ ^Actions _Words 00:47, September 23, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Special:CreatePage

I tried it at Firefox and Google Chrome but no template comes up when I click one of them. I tried writing the title before and after clicking the artist template but nothing happens. After clicking preview with a title I get the message Article text required. Does it happen to me only? Titaki 11:37, September 25, 2009 (UTC)

Doesn't work for me, either (even with scripts fully enabled). However I'm sure it once did some time ago (I remember clicking on the buttons with fascination several times^^) - Chris 09:40, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

Blech, yeah... doesn't look like the templates work with Special:CreatePage. I don't think that special page existed when we created the extension... it does still work for normal not-yet-existant pages though (like you get when you click a redlink). For example This Is Not A Real Artist and This Is Not:A Song We Have should give artist and song templates respectively.

Guess we'll have to update the extension to work on Special:CreatePage too :/ adding it to my bug list...

-Sean Colombo 20:12, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

But why did it work then some time ago? Or were these awesome red buttons once displayed on usual pages as well (uhm yeah, I like them a lot, I think the're pretty cool looking and stylish) - Chris 18:33, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Right click

I can't seem to right click most things on the LyricsWiki, but I can on others, anyone have an idea as to what's causing this? Revrant 14:56, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

This is caused by a script disabling right-clicking on song-pages to protect the lyrics from being copied. You cannot mark any text either. However this script is just included for song-pages, that's why you're still able to copy/paste on talk-pages f. e. - Chris 09:16, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

[edit] ' vs. ’

Hello, I've been working on Birdman, and there are many songs existing twice or missing but submitted with only a slightly different title. The problem I've got:

The songs are like You Ain’t Know vs. You Ain't Know.

Which one is correct? ’ or '? (To make the difference visible a bit better than now, I'll post these in true-type from now on: ’ vs. ')

A problem could be that German keyboards don't even have this ’ character, just a ´, but this is a French accent and just taken by people who haven't found out about the ' yet. Which one is to redirect to the other? My favourite would be to redirect ’ to '. - Chris 09:33, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

We use the apostrophe (the ')... this removes a lot of encoding problems & makes it easier for everyone.

Thanks for bringing it up

-Sean Colombo 20:13, November 8, 2009 (UTC)